Fujifilm X-Pro1 details leaked!!!

astrosecret said:
interesting. I assume any kind dust on the glass inserts would be inconsequential? my eyes may be mistaking me but on fujis website, full res pics looked like the sensor was dirty.
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Yes, I noticed that too. Very poor product photography on several of those brochure pics, but that is not a fault of the camera.

When I bought my X100 in May, I thought £1000 was a little steep but though the price is now <£800 I feel I have had at least £200 of valued photography in 2011. Now I am wondering how to justify another new camera this year.
My one disappointment with the X100 is the manual focus: impossible to use in low light. There is no mention of manual focus at all for this new model, so I will wait and see.
 
DtheG said:
Yes, I noticed that too. Very poor product photography on several of those brochure pics, but that is not a fault of the camera.

When I bought my X100 in May, I thought £1000 was a little steep but though the price is now <£800 I feel I have had at least £200 of valued photography in 2011. Now I am wondering how to justify another new camera this year.
My one disappointment with the X100 is the manual focus: impossible to use in low light. There is no mention of manual focus at all for this new model, so I will wait and see.
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It is a "focus by wire" manual focus system not mechanical, so the response of those lenses in the manual focus area should be a little oddball. Hopefully they paid attention to the cries of the X100 owners in terms of the manual focus issues.
 
I am happy enough with 'fly by wire', though the smoothness of the focus ring does sit a little oddly with the stepping movement of the actual focus.
What I would like is less movement required and consistency: it is barely tolerable in good light, in low light it can be impossible to change focus manually when conditions prevent autofocus from locking on the desired target.
 
claacct said:
Sony Nex-7 for serious photographers and those who have third-party lenses, X-Pro1 for not so demanding photographers who like good things in life.

I think that pretty much sums it up.
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Serious photographers who only need one 'serious' AF lens?

I like the idea of the NEX-7, and I hope to rent one for a lark one day - but Sony's lens lineup leaves an awful lot to be desired. And though I've heard good reports regarding ergonomics, I'd have to have one in hand with the big Zeiss 24 to be sold. I know I found the NEX-5 and kit zoom to be a very awkward combo.
 
It's a sweet looking design. As someone else mentioned it reminds me of the XPan for some reason.

At 29 pages, I'm officially unable to keep up with this thread.

Noticed on Mirrorless Rumors today that the Fuji folks said AF speed would not match up with the best. Via Gizmodo:

“The camera’s one drawback, and Fuji has told us that this will be the case on the production models, is that the autofocus isn’t going to be as snappy as it is on other cameras. Fuji says thats because that’s not what this camera is about.”
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Paddy C said:
It's a sweet looking design. As someone else mentioned it reminds me of the XPan for some reason.

At 29 pages, I'm officially unable to keep up with this thread.

Noticed on Mirrorless Rumors today that the Fuji folks said AF speed would not match up with the best. Via Gizmodo:
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Then what IS it about? Poor AF, just as I said it would have. Just as claact said. Poor performing overpriced jewelry for those with money and little else.
 
I read that as "it's not going to be as fast as a phase detect DSLR."

Whether it is 'poor' remains to be seen. ;)
 
@Thardy re the X1's sloping top plate: In one of the CES video interviews with the X1's product manager, she says that the sloped top plate helps you relax your index finger, which encourages you to relax your whole hand, which encourages you to keep your right elbow tucked in to make a good, solid shooting platform.
 
Chriscrawfordphoto said:
Poor performing overpriced jewelry for those with money and little else.
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I don't know. That seems a little harsh for a camera that we've not actually seen in the hands of pros.
I hear people say the X100 isn't suitable for professional use. Yet, one of the staff photojournalists at my paper regularly publishes photos with his. Does it replace his DLSR gear? Of course not. Is it perfect? Of course not. Yet it's good enough that he uses it professionally.
 
Originally Posted by claacct
Sony Nex-7 for serious photographers and those who have third-party lenses, X-Pro1 for not so demanding photographers who like good things in life.

I think that pretty much sums it up.


really? i come out a little differently on that equation:
small camera+big lenses=dumb market analysis

i kinda think that sums it up even better!
 
Paddy C said:
Noticed on Mirrorless Rumors today that the Fuji folks said AF speed would not match up with the best. Via Gizmodo:
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sounds like someone somwhere got something wrong as that COMPLETELY contradicts what Kayce Baker, Fujifilm rep, has been saying in almost every video & interview she's been in. she's even referred to the AF as "super fast" and "much faster than the X100".

for example, see this video @4:30
http://youtu.be/51gOJziQs1U
 
As nice at this camera is it still hasn't adressed the focus issue that seems to cause so much discussion around here.

A D700 or 5Dll will kick it's arse as a serious photographic tool every time in tricky lighting conditions because the AF is lightening fast and very accurate on these DSLRs and with a good screen they are pretty decent for manual focusing with a non AF prime. The penalty is weight and size of course but if you're serious about getting the images and not fighting a flickering EVF linked to a mushy fly by wire manual focusing system you'll still chose the DSLR every time.

A professional's tool should be able to handle all conditions without risk of missing shots when the going gets tough. I don't quite see this new Fuji as 'being there' yet! It's a nice camera and will sell very well to the enthusiastic well heeled amateur but to call it a 'Pro' tool is stretching it a bit for me.

I'd own one ... but certainly not as a replacement for my DSLR. And for the people who think it's a replacement for an M9 because of it's lower price and superior high ISO capability, watch and wait, because the M10 will be a very different camera IMO ... particularly regarding it's high ISO performance.
 
I think the Fuji looks really interesting, and strangely makes me thinnk of getting an old xpan. But given that none of us have tried one yet how do we know so much about its performance comapred to other cameras?
 
sojournerphoto said:
I think the Fuji looks really interesting, and strangely makes me thinnk of getting an old xpan. But given that none of us have tried one yet how do we know so much about its performance comapred to other cameras?
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Fuji has admitted it has poor AF compared to D-SLRs. A $2000+ camera should not have inferior autofocus or anything else. Sorry.
 
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