Guess: it will detect which frameline to show. 
bwcolor
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There is a downside to manual focus with rangefinder legacy lenses. For critical focus, you must focus wide open and then stop down. This is true of magnification and focus peaking.
Intelligent can simply mean a change in the menu structure to make it easy to choose a lens type, framing and even distortion compensation. Of course, it could be made to read the newer Leica lens coding. There isn't much else that a camera can do when using an 'M' lens.
Intelligent can simply mean a change in the menu structure to make it easy to choose a lens type, framing and even distortion compensation. Of course, it could be made to read the newer Leica lens coding. There isn't much else that a camera can do when using an 'M' lens.
Adanac
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The X100s magnification for manual focus tweaking was barely usable in my experience - and then only ideal conditions. It would appear that the EVF hasn't received any updates in the XPro 1; if that is the case, achieving focus will continue to be hampered by the camera.
Like the X100, this camera appears to be designed for AF use, period, and given the experience I had with my X100 I'm concerned that any focus assists implemented will be hampered by the EVF.
NazgulKing
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Won't work too well if there is focus shift.
rxmd
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I think with this mention of "focus shift" we finally have all the Internet photography bogeyman memes assembled in this thread. Bingo!
Now all that is left is to wait for the camera to actually appear, and then we can all start talking about it in a less speculative and more informed fashion.
celluloidprop
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So much empty supposition - "they don't appear to have improved the AF/MF/EVF/etc.."
Several previews have said the AF is improved. Some say the manual focus is better. The various forum statements that it's a Sony sensor appear unfounded (aside from shared pixel counts). The EVF is still 1.44mn dots, but so is everyone's but Sony. Doesn't mean they didn't improve it in other ways.
Several previews have said the AF is improved. Some say the manual focus is better. The various forum statements that it's a Sony sensor appear unfounded (aside from shared pixel counts). The EVF is still 1.44mn dots, but so is everyone's but Sony. Doesn't mean they didn't improve it in other ways.
back alley
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what i like best about this new camera is...that it will eventually show up, in town, at my local camera shop and then i can see it for myself...in person, in my hands...i will get to handle it and see it do what it does...and i wont have to plunk down any money up front to do that!!
i can't say the same for my rd1s or my cv/rollei lenses...
i can't say the same for my rd1s or my cv/rollei lenses...
hxpham
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It looks like the Fuji has no useable autofocus eitherWhy wouldn't it be? A Leica M9 will set you back about $7,000,with no useable autofocus.
I don't imagine the M-mount crowd is the primary focus here. If it were, they would have developed an M-Mount camera. The ability to use m lenses (for better or worse) is just a bit of a bonus.
Spyro
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I'm guessing the M adapter needs to be developed in-house to add a mechanism for parallax correction.
Remember in the xpro1 the parallax correction of the framelines is electronic not mechanical. The camera is missing the thingo that rangefinders have on the top of the mount to push the framelines as the lens focuses. I'm guessing this adapter won't be cheap either.
Remember in the xpro1 the parallax correction of the framelines is electronic not mechanical. The camera is missing the thingo that rangefinders have on the top of the mount to push the framelines as the lens focuses. I'm guessing this adapter won't be cheap either.
Adanac
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I can't see spending a lot on an adapter that deals only with parallax correction for frame lines but doesn't actually assist with focus. Users will have to flip back and forth between EVF and OVF. Workable for some, but hardly smooth.
silverbullet
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As with other adaptable cameras the Fuji should be used with the EVF and manual lenses. Otherwise it would be nearly impossible to manage precise focus.
So it would be interesting at what moment Fuji releases the information about focus help (peaking, enlarging areas etc.) and of course the adapter as well.
Due to patent rights it's not allowed to offer an adapter with Fuji mount on one side.......
So it would be interesting at what moment Fuji releases the information about focus help (peaking, enlarging areas etc.) and of course the adapter as well.
Due to patent rights it's not allowed to offer an adapter with Fuji mount on one side.......
Adanac
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I had a conversation with a X100 user who demo'd the XPro 1 recently one afternoon. His feeling is that the throw and feel of the manual focus lenses is very similar to what the current firmware delivers on the X100 - i.e., very long throw, not particularly practical. AF did not seem markedly better and reminded him a lot of the X100.
Neither observation is necessarily a problem for some users - clearly many photographers get on well with the X100, so those folks ought to get on well with the XPro 1.
As for the EVF, this user's experience suggests it does appear to be the same unit with the same lag issues.
Some of the user-driven first look reports do echo these observations, which I'm a bit surprised to discover. I'd have thought Fuji would in trying to knock one out of the park address some of the core complaints that a great many X100 owners have had. It doesn't seem so, but it is early days so I'm just making note of these reports and will wait and see what shipping models in the hands of reviewers have to say.
The X100 and I got along fine, but not great. Maybe my expectations were too high for it, but if that is so with the XPro 1 I'd expect even more and it looks like for a number of usability and handling factors this new camera likely won't meet my expectations.
Paul T.
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This is the rangefinder forum. So it's people's prerogative to talk about M lenses, especially when Fuji are touting an imminent adapter!
Paul, I understand that, but every thread about both the X100 and X-Pro1 gets overrun by M lens addicts. A seperate thread might be the best way to go IMO. That said, f-it. Do what you guys want, it's not my forum.
Mcary
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Some people just can't seem to grasps the simple fact that this camera was designed to be used with its native lenses and any use of M mount or other mount legacy lens, via an adapter will require some compromises. Don't like the idea of making compromises well then buy a digital camera that's designed to be used with the lens you own. If I recall correctly believe its called the M9
Paul T.
Veteran
With respect, isn't that a question of opinion? I am a fan of Fuji's approach; yes, M lens users will indeed have to accept some compromises. But why, exactly, should some of the camera's potential buyers have to be exiled to another thread, when Fuji themselves are using the prospect of legacy lens use as part of their marketing?
RFF is free to use. It doesn't cost us anything. The "M lens fans" are not harming you.
Differing opinions shouldn't shake our world, they should broaden it.
Paul, my issue isn't with discussion of the m adapter, it is with the complaining about what the Fuji isn't. It gets tiring hearing about how every camera doesn't have this and doesn't have that. We have a lot of great options these days and people should maybe concentrate on what these cameras offer instead.
Plus, I conceded that it was my opinion, so carry on... IMO = in my opinion.
Plus, I conceded that it was my opinion, so carry on... IMO = in my opinion.
bwcolor
Veteran
How would the camera know what distance to use for the parallax correction?
ferider
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What bugs me more is complaining based on assumptions without info.
Fact is that we have no idea what the M adapter will look like. All we know is that it will be a little more than 1cm thick. That's a lot of room, enough for an RF coupler, or even an AF focusing helix.
Roland.