Paul T.
Veteran
There is the theoretical possibility that the RF cam can feed that info to the relevant sensor. But I would contend it will remain theoretical.
As we've seen, Fuji shout about their USPs; imagining extra ones (RF-style focusing, peaking, improved MF throw, legacy lens optimisation) only invites disappointment!
Agreed. although with the X100, the complaints that fantasies weren't being delivered soon turned in to the usual internet complaints about focusing. Often from people who haven't tried the camera. Then there were those complaints about... oh yes, the fixed lens!
MaxElmar
Well-known
The FujiX/LeicaM adapter could have a mechanical sensor that reads the position of the lens and relays it to the camera via the electronic coupling. Not very likely, but it could work that way. The focus distance could be recorded in the exif and displayed in the finder.
(Leica should do that with the M - if they don't do it already!)
Myself - I shall be very happy to give the X a try with the native lenses. Fuji does make excellent lenses. And the AF, well, we shall see. I don't expect it to be as fast as the best DSLRs but if they give me an effective manual option - that would be fine for the kind of shooting I would do with that camera.
(Leica should do that with the M - if they don't do it already!)
Myself - I shall be very happy to give the X a try with the native lenses. Fuji does make excellent lenses. And the AF, well, we shall see. I don't expect it to be as fast as the best DSLRs but if they give me an effective manual option - that would be fine for the kind of shooting I would do with that camera.
I was going to answer this with just a '?' but I needed 10 characters.
This is all so predictable. A few years ago, people here would be salivating over a camera with the specs of the X-Pro1. There are probably a few threads here from years ago, outlining some of these desired features that were considered fantasies at the time...
And now that it's been announced, there is a concerted effort here to complain about every imagined fault.
Sigh.
And now that it's been announced, there is a concerted effort here to complain about every imagined fault.
Sigh.
Paul T.
Veteran
Maybe this will bring a bit of perspective: the RD-1 body when announced was $2999 retail. And since then the dollar has tanked...
And now there's a full page of people complaining about the complaining!
_ Indeed! _
Joe AC
Well-known
I'm so confused...
Paul T.
Veteran
Very true.
The XPro would have to be very slow focus indeed, for it not to be better value for money than a $1400, used R-D1. And I like the R-D1 very much.
One of Fuji's management stated they had sold twice as many X100s as they hoped. That's quite a big deal considering how often RFFers and other people who like a more manual, compact, high quality camera are often thought to be so niche as to be thought insignificant.
If the rumored prices are accurate, $2999 is a two lens X-Pro1 kit.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
We need a motto.
"RF'rs. Not so insignificant after all!"
"Who you callin' Niche?"
"We are the 7.25%!"
bwcolor
Veteran
Yes, as both of you have suggested, it is theoretically possible, but it is so much easier to just use the EVF. I would rather have the high tech put into a better EVF than some complicated scheme to allow OVF parallax correction. It is also possible for the adapter to use an external method of determining distance to a central subject. Again, a lot of work for a non-problem...EVF.
Turtle
Veteran
I do an awful lot of my shooting using hyperfocal focusing on manual lenses. An X-pro body would allow the manual feel of quality manual M lenses on a body with high performance sensor. I am wondering how much amazing AF matters to me. It does matter, of course, but not as much as it would on an SLR type camera. The only issue would be whether to use the manufacturer's lenses or just Leica/Zeiss glass, which I already own.
Even with so-so AF, this camera has the potential to provide a great solution for street and certain documentary work for $1100 and when they bring in upgraded AF, the first body becomes the back up and the new body more of a comprehensive solution. Based on comparable costs, after two bodies there would still be nearly $5K left as compared to buying a Leica M9. This is going to be interesting, but I have no doubt that regardless of how this first model performs, the market is about to change dramatically. Future upgraded models will only improve AF and upgrade sensors.
If they bring out a model designed for manual lenses specifically, happy days. I could even live with the crop issue if the saving over a M9 is big enough, but for me, $3-4K for a used M8/8.2 was never an option. This camera is half that for a new one. Its a game changer alright.
Even with so-so AF, this camera has the potential to provide a great solution for street and certain documentary work for $1100 and when they bring in upgraded AF, the first body becomes the back up and the new body more of a comprehensive solution. Based on comparable costs, after two bodies there would still be nearly $5K left as compared to buying a Leica M9. This is going to be interesting, but I have no doubt that regardless of how this first model performs, the market is about to change dramatically. Future upgraded models will only improve AF and upgrade sensors.
If they bring out a model designed for manual lenses specifically, happy days. I could even live with the crop issue if the saving over a M9 is big enough, but for me, $3-4K for a used M8/8.2 was never an option. This camera is half that for a new one. Its a game changer alright.
rdeleskie
Well-known
In all fairness, a used M8 is around $2k, which puts it closer to the price of the Fuji, and without some of the potential compromises with regards to M mount lenses. The M8 has it's own set of compromises of course. Each individual will have to decide what's best for them.
emraphoto
Veteran
It looks like the Fuji has no useable autofocus either
again, could someone explain the no autofocus bit. i have used an x100 from
kosovo to nigeria and haven't had any problems with the af. is there another x100 model i am unaware of?
Focal Plane Circus
Member
Yes. It's the model that trolls complain about who don't own one, haven't ever seen one, and wouldn't know what to do with if it bit them.
f16sunshine
Moderator
John
Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. The x100 is a joke.
With the x100 Fuji made a $1200 Paperweight that is not even heavy enough to hold down paper.
The xpro1 is Fuji's attempt to remedy the earlier complaints of the x100 and make a tax of another $500 in the process.
The new camera is heavier and will be able to hold down at least a letter size piece of paper in gusty conditions or, legal size in a mild breeze.
jamesbf
Established
@f16sunshine Ha! Come on though - They x100 isn't all that bad.
emraphoto
Veteran
John
Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. The x100 is a joke.
With the x100 Fuji made a $1200 Paperweight that is not even heavy enough to hold down paper.
The xpro1 is Fuji's attempt to remedy the earlier complaints of the x100 and make a tax of another $500 in the process.
The new camera is heavier and will be able to hold down at least a letter size piece of paper in gusty conditions or, legal size in a mild breeze.
i have been accused of not knowing what i am talking about many times before so i suppose i could be guilty again
f16sunshine
Moderator
It's OK, I stubbornly keep using an x100 to make photographs also.
Even though, apparently there is no way to actually focus it.
Guess neither of us knows what they are talking about.
Even though, apparently there is no way to actually focus it.
Guess neither of us knows what they are talking about.