stompyq
Well-known
I'm really hoping this "external AF" is an active IR system just like in the Konica Hexar AF. This was what I wanted for the X-100.
It would mean AF will be blazing fast, will operate in total darkness AND will be able to focus on low-contrast objects such as featureless walls (that's an example - DON'T take photos of featureless walls).
Being able to focus in total darkness at high speed would be a revelation for a camera with such a good high ISO performance (assuming it is just as good as the X-100).
How dare you stop us from taking pictures of featureless walls :bang:
stompyq
Well-known
And for those who haven't seen it here's more info
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/first-image-of-the-fuji-x-pro/
Seriously like the price if this is true...
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/first-image-of-the-fuji-x-pro/
Seriously like the price if this is true...
Arjay
Time Traveller
If you refer to the text passage in the French article, then you should be a little careful.I'm really hoping this "external AF" is an active IR system just like in the Konica Hexar AF. This was what I wanted for the X-100.
It would mean AF will be blazing fast, will operate in total darkness AND will be able to focus on low-contrast objects such as featureless walls (that's an example - DON'T take photos of featureless walls).
Being able to focus in total darkness at high speed would be a revelation for a camera with such a good high ISO performance (assuming it is just as good as the X-100).
The phrase in question is incomplete and contains a grammatical mistake. I'm not at all sure what it means, but from its context, I would much rather guess that the article simply intends to say that the new camera's OVF will also feature parallax compensation.
There's nothing on the camera front that would indicate that the camera would also feature an IR-assist AF system.
BTW, the Mirrorless Rumors blog appears to be a simple rehash of the French article, and it reproduces the faulty text passage with an interpretation:
I don't believe this until I see a better, more credible source.The autofocus sensor is…external! There is a special AF sensor on the camera body!
gavinlg
Veteran
There's nothing on the camera front that would indicate that the camera would also feature an IR-assist AF system.
Agreed - people are making up their own specs here. There's no current digital camera that has an IR assist style AF system for whatever reason, and I don't think this one has one either. if you look at the hexar AF it has a multitude of windows and sensors next to the viewfinder, this x-pro has no visible external sensors.
Besides that, it DOES have an external AF assist light, which WILL allow you to photograph a featureless wall in complete darkness, if you so choose (as will the x100 with its assist light)
Also, the whole suggested beam splitter/projected rangefinder thing isn't going to happen either. It's an autofocus camera, and will have a basic MF mode to supplement it, just like the x100.
Adanac
Well-known
The hybrid OVF/EVF is cool, provided they improved the EVF in this second gen, whatever improvement means. I did not mind the EVF component of the X100 but it would be nice to see it come up to the level of the Sony EVF which has much less lag in lower light.
It would be disorienting to switch from OVF to EVF if the OVF only shows framelines and no zoom.
The main thing of interest in this camera to me are the new sensor implementation details, but those aren't disclosed in any substantive way as yet. If the camera offers a manual focus assist mode (magnification and edge detection / focus peaking a la Sony and Ricoh) such that adapted lenses can be used on it, then and only then will I be really interested.
Put another way, if I can't run my adapted M mount lenses on it, the camera probably won't attract my dollars. I'm not about to sell lenses I like, that work in a more open environment, for lenses I might like that only work on a closed system made by Fuji or anyone else.
Otherwise it'll be yet another closed camera system from yet another maker, albeit with a new (but unproven) sensor technology that might offer value to photographers as opposed to offering value to camera makers (cheaper or easier to produce).
It would be disorienting to switch from OVF to EVF if the OVF only shows framelines and no zoom.
The main thing of interest in this camera to me are the new sensor implementation details, but those aren't disclosed in any substantive way as yet. If the camera offers a manual focus assist mode (magnification and edge detection / focus peaking a la Sony and Ricoh) such that adapted lenses can be used on it, then and only then will I be really interested.
Put another way, if I can't run my adapted M mount lenses on it, the camera probably won't attract my dollars. I'm not about to sell lenses I like, that work in a more open environment, for lenses I might like that only work on a closed system made by Fuji or anyone else.
Otherwise it'll be yet another closed camera system from yet another maker, albeit with a new (but unproven) sensor technology that might offer value to photographers as opposed to offering value to camera makers (cheaper or easier to produce).
Turtle
Veteran
I agree that a 35mm equivalent lens will be very important. The gap between 27mm and 53 is enormous and would be far from ideal for me.
Lets see.....
Lets see.....
DamenS
Well-known
Besides that, it DOES have an external AF assist light, which WILL allow you to photograph a featureless wall in complete darkness, if you so choose (as will the x100 with its assist light)
Pity - I HATE AF assist lights ... They're so indiscreet and I find they always alert my featureless walls as to my intent and they usually manage to escape before I've fired the shot ...
Matus
Well-known
Just to support those who would like to see 21 and 35 (FX equiv.) lenses - count me in 
Colin G.
Established
This pretty much sums up how I feel about this right now:
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LOL...My sentiments exactly!
f6andBthere
Well-known
I can't believe that Fuji have managed to wind this place up to fever pitch twice in the space of twelve months with their offerings! 
That has to be some sort of record surely?
That has to be some sort of record surely?
Mcary
Well-known
I plan to use both. X100 w/ 35mm and X-Pro1 w/ 28mm & 50mm.
+1 Mostly like will get the 60mm as my first lens for the system followed by the 35mm
tbarker13
shooter of stuff
Surely they will offer a body-only version. If someone were to want two of these bodies, they surely wouldn't want two of the same lenses to go with them.
willie_901
Veteran
I Must Be Very Lucky
I Must Be Very Lucky
I just realized I'm the luckiest photographer on earth since my in-focus rate with the X100 is essentially identical to the high in-focus rate I enjoyed with my Zeiss Ikon ZM film body. Apparently I am able to record large numbers of focused images with a camera that has "no F at all".
I'm off to the loacal casino to see if my luck translates to the gaming tables.
I Must Be Very Lucky
I only hope that it will have at least AF or MF, not like x100 with no F at all.
I just realized I'm the luckiest photographer on earth since my in-focus rate with the X100 is essentially identical to the high in-focus rate I enjoyed with my Zeiss Ikon ZM film body. Apparently I am able to record large numbers of focused images with a camera that has "no F at all".
I'm off to the loacal casino to see if my luck translates to the gaming tables.
MikeL
Go Fish
I can't believe that Fuji have managed to wind this place up to fever pitch twice in the space of twelve months with their offerings!![]()
I heard through the grapevine RFF may open a sister site, or change its address, to www.fujirangefinderesqueforum.com
Snacks
Established
Having only just bought an X100, I thank Fuji for making the X-Pro 1 lumpy and ugly.
whtchocla7e
Member
Having only just bought an X100, I thank Fuji for making the X-Pro 1 lumpy and ugly.
And we thank you for buying that X100.
This means better chances of getting the pre-order sooner rather than later for the rest of us.
Shade
Well-known
The existance of the x100 in my eyes is a short term excuse for the lack of the 35mm equivolent lens. Yes, today they do not want to undermine the x100, but it has to hard to sell one camera at these prices, much harder to sell two, and 35mm is such a fundamental focal length. The question I would guess is, will there be an x200 or x300? When that line is dropped in favor of the xPro thingy the 35mm equivolent lens will be offered.
I suspect that Fuji will not release a 35mm equiv. lens before their stock of X100 thins out. Then by the time they will release a 35mm equiv. lens, the X100 will have a newer generation, and possibly, a fast lens short zoom. Perhaps 28-40 F2.
porktaco
Well-known
stupid fuji. your aperture ring moves the wrong way. just like all the supermodels with ears that are too large or elbows that are too pointy, i throw you back.
bwcolor
Veteran
Question Regarding the Sensor
Question Regarding the Sensor
What do we know about this new sensor? I understand no AA filter. I understand what the microlenses do. Can someone explain the advantage of hexagonal sensor sites and six color filter array. I assume that the hexagonal arrangement somehow increases the photo sensitive area and the low light performance. Is this correct? What does the color filter do and why will this camera exceed the performance of full frame sensor cameras?
Question Regarding the Sensor
What do we know about this new sensor? I understand no AA filter. I understand what the microlenses do. Can someone explain the advantage of hexagonal sensor sites and six color filter array. I assume that the hexagonal arrangement somehow increases the photo sensitive area and the low light performance. Is this correct? What does the color filter do and why will this camera exceed the performance of full frame sensor cameras?
Flinor
Well-known
At Last. My digital CLE
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