Fujifilm X-Pro1 details leaked!!!

j j said:
DP review, Pentax K5: "Speaking of price point though, the K-5 is a very expensive camera right now, and although we consider that it is good value from a Pentax-users perspective, there is no doubt that such a high asking price (currently around $300 higher than the Nikon D7000, which has a similar sensor and boasts a significantly more versatile AF system) will put some people off. It should be noted though that the prices of the K20D and K-7 also started high but soon dropped - the K-5 will almost certainly come down in price in the coming months."
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Yes, you've proven your point. IMO even $1300 is expensive for a rubbish little nikon SLR compared to this fuji. Alternatively you could have a Zeiss Ikon with NO digital sensor and a very comparatively basic viewfinder for the same price?
 
I'm not at all sure of your point.

If Nikon made rubbish little SLRs and charged $1,300 that would be expensive. The Zeiss is an expensive camera (excellent viewfinder, what's your beef there?). The Fuji is expensive. Lots of cameras are expensive.

Value is another matter. The Fuji will probably be good value, but it is expensive at current suggested prices.
 
The camera is too expensive only if people feel it does not give them sufficient capability for the $ and so don't buy it. Its not going to appeal to some who might buy a M9 for its cachet or gem like quality, so it really will be judged on bang for buck.

Considering that it has no competition really it is hard to say, but I suspect it will be a huge success as people buy in with the knowledge that there will be subsequent generations that can make use of the same lenses. The only alternative for something with this form factor, interchangeable lenses etc is the M9 and its a very different camera with a 5x higher price.

Think what people will be able to buy into this system for in 2-3 years if they are prepared to buy a used X-Pro 1? This is not dead money to Fuji as they will sell new lenses, flash etc to these people.
 
Turtle said:
The camera is too expensive only if people feel it does not give them sufficient capability for the $ and so don't buy it.
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Agreed. Those of us who are buying this camera are doing so because of the form factor, the OVF, interchangable lenses, and the dedicated shutter speed / aperture dials. It is not too expensive if that is the type of camera you've been waiting for. However, if you are immune to ergonomics, compare the X-Pro1 to a DSLR, and can't make up your mind versus other cameras on the market... it'll seem high priced. This camera is made for those of us who don't like DSLRs. If you are into DSLRs, I can't see why you are looking at the X-Pro1. DSLRs are the king of bang for the buck.
 
Agreed, agreed! DSLRs are the best bang for the buck unless your photography revolves almost entirely around pursuits in which SLRs are not at the tope of their game i.e. street/candid docu. For more general endeavours the DSLR sweeps all before, or for handheld portrait work. This is why for some time I have combined a Leica M and wides with a Canon SLR and fast 85mm! Its biological division of labour!

jsrockit said:
Agreed. ... DSLRs are the king of bang for the buck.
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Focal Plane Circus said:
First X-Pro1 body listed on ebay today:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/...true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_3766wt_1159

The games begin ... :rolleyes:
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Having seen the new Pentax "Destro" mirrorless, I return to this thread contrite. No matter what limitations the X-1 Pro may or may not have, it does not remind me a chrome-faced s-s-s-s-supervillian's chrome-faced and black-clad sidekick. And that's half the battle...
 
dreilly said:
Having seen the new Pentax "Destro" mirrorless, I return to this thread contrite. No matter what limitations the X-1 Pro may or may not have, it does not remind me a chrome-faced s-s-s-s-supervillian's chrome-faced and black-clad sidekick. And that's half the battle...
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Heh. That Pentax is sad. I'm quite surprised actually.

I carry a camera everywhere. To enjoy it, it has to work well obviously, but I also have to bond with it somehow - and form factor is an important part of that process. I need to actually like it.

I'm not into homely cameras.

Oh - maybe the yellow one? lol
 
I can deal with all the consumer stuff we do ... except those damned unboxing videos!

They're creepy ... made all the more creepy by the fact that thousands will look at them. :p
 
f6andBthere said:
I can deal with all the consumer stuff we do ... except those damned unboxing videos!

They're creepy ... made all the more creepy by the fact that thousands will look at them. :p
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A guilty pleasure of mine.

Actually i'm not even guilty about it. Love opening new things, especially when they're well packaged - like apple stuff.
 
gavinlg said:
A guilty pleasure of mine.

Actually i'm not even guilty about it. Love opening new things, especially when they're well packaged - like apple stuff.
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So do I ... but I have no desire to video the process and upload it to youtube. That's a little too OCD for me! :eek: :D
 
f6andBthere said:
So do I ... but I have no desire to video the process and upload it to youtube. That's a little too OCD for me! :eek: :D
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People don't do those unboxing videos because they're OCD. They do it to brag about what they have. It is crass and low-class.

In his autobiography, Ansel Adams related his experience meeting Alfred Stieglitz for the first time. Adams had in hand a letter of introduction from a wealthy woman in San Francisco (where Adams grew up) who was related to someone in Stieglitz's family. The great man threw the letter in the trash and told Adams that "All that woman has is money, and if this depression continues,she won't even have that!" Fortunately, he didn't hold it against Adams. Makes me think of these people who think anyone gives a damn what they just bought. They have money and little else.
 
Chriscrawfordphoto said:
People don't do those unboxing videos because they're OCD. They do it to brag about what they have. It is crass and low-class.

In his autobiography, Ansel Adams related his experience meeting Alfred Stieglitz for the first time. Adams had in hand a letter of introduction from a wealthy woman in San Francisco (where Adams grew up) who was related to someone in Stieglitz's family. The great man threw the letter in the trash and told Adams that "All that woman has is money, and if this depression continues,she won't even have that!" Fortunately, he didn't hold it against Adams. Makes me think of these people who think anyone gives a damn what they just bought. They have money and little else.
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I dunno, I think it's just sharing in gear fetishism. I'm always interested in design, including packaging, so I'm always interested in unboxing videos.

That's just me though, I couldn't actually be bothered to make an unboxing video...
 
Probably there are people who need assistance unboxing their new toy? Some people just can't realize all those latches and foldings. Once they open a box farther is easier - cameras have instruction manuals.
 
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