Fujifilm X-Pro3 Thoughts?

shawn said:
It is a great feature. I was always hoping Fuji would have gone the other direction and add a third magnification to the VF. One for 14mm and above, a middle ground and then a lifesize vf option.

Shawn
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Shawn, I guess I am just happy that the 35 has this option and eager to see what it does for 18mm. I don't currently have the 14. David
 
After reading some of the way people use their Xpro, I think maybe I use the camera as a sort of “fun machine” and generally think of it like I would a film camera. I expose it to my best ability and let the “film” do the rest. Let the chips fall where they may just like I would with real film. For more serious or structured work that will require processing, I generally take out the M or the DSLR. As it is, every camera I own is more capable a machine than I am a photographer, so that’s perhaps more likely what is keeping me put.
 
DwF said:
Shawn, I guess I am just happy that the 35 has this option and eager to see what it does for 18mm. I don't currently have the 14. David
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The XP2 should automatically switch to the lower magnification viewfinder when you put the 18 on it. Fuji did tweak the switching behavior from the XP1 though so it was sometimes a little funky. The 18mm will fit within the OVF, the 14mm was too wide.

Shawn
 
DwF said:
I like the simulations but find that if I don't really nail the exposure and or am shooting a scene is simply too complex, I feel weird loading a JPEG into PS rather than just working with RAW to begin with. I keep trying though to find a really good file in jpeg to leave as is. Most often it is shadow detail that needs some work to enhance detail. So I tend to open jpegs first on the computer and decide from there which files I will work with.
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If you are trying to work with JPEGs use AutoISO and AutoDR to your advantage as that can help with complex lighting. Also try using DR400 which the camera will not select on its own. Don't let the ISO setting fool you, if you are on DR200 and ISO400 the camera is actually shooting at base ISO (200), if you are on DR400 and ISO800 the camera is still shooting at base ISO. (200) The DR modes expose at the higher iso setitng but shoot 1 stop (dr200) or 2 stops (dr400) down from there and then apply a tone curve to the image.

You can also adjust shadows in the JPEG with the Shadow Tone adjustment. A good way to get a feel for that is to shoot a RAW and then create a bunch of in camera JPEGs from it adjusting that control in the RAW conversion.

Shawn
 
The focus limiter should make the 60mm macro a faster lens to use in a wider variety of situations. I would love to have a 90mm equivalent but the lens was slow due to its wide focus range.
 
I am exited about this camera. Fuji have a dealership in Saigon and I wonder how they'll price it -in the past, some of their cameras were brought to market on par or below US price levels. If the price is right, I'll go for the Dura silver and if not, I'll get the black. Cheers,
 
jsrockit said:
Not this agnostic. I truly hate fully articulated screens. Nothing screams Dad at a Wedding more than guys who prefer this method of framing photos. I know it’s my hang up, but I’m not alone.
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You are not alone with this hang up, nor your perfect description of it!
 
shawn said:
If you are trying to work with JPEGs use AutoISO and AutoDR to your advantage as that can help with complex lighting. Also try using DR400 which the camera will not select on its own. Don't let the ISO setting fool you, if you are on DR200 and ISO400 the camera is actually shooting at base ISO (200), if you are on DR400 and ISO800 the camera is still shooting at base ISO. (200) The DR modes expose at the higher iso setting but shoot 1 stop (dr200) or 2 stops (dr400) down from there and then apply a tone curve to the image.

You can also adjust shadows in the JPEG with the Shadow Tone adjustment. A good way to get a feel for that is to shoot a RAW and then create a bunch of in camera JPEGs from it adjusting that control in the RAW conversion.

Shawn
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Thank you Shawn. I have tweaked the JPEG adjustments (shadows, highs, NR and the like) but will try the DR/Auto ISO suggestions! I really should pretend I only have this camera at my disposal and really learn to utilize it's capabilities!

David
 
this is probably my favorite X-Pro3 video that I've seen so far, I like her documentary style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwJDyhozJzs

i like the Dura black color but after seeing the video, the Dura silver is growing on me.

had the pleasure to play with the X-Pro3 at The Camera Store last week and noticed that some lens AF (the first gen XF 35mm 1.4 and XF 18mm 2) did not well on this body, hope they update those 2 lenses as they are some of my favorite Fuji lenses.
surprisingly, the XF 50mm 2 was a little slow too but they did not have the latest FW out yet either.

the user interface might take some time getting used to but it is very reminiscent of film photography where you just have to know and trust your settings.

Might just be me but after shooting EVF for the past 5-6 years, I went back shooting OVF and sadly did not really like the OVF of the X-Pro3.

But if I were to start my photography gear all over again and didn't have legacy lenses that I enjoy shooting, an X-Pro3 would be my top choice right now.
 
Ccoppola82 said:
After reading some of the way people use their Xpro, I think maybe I use the camera as a sort of “fun machine” and generally think of it like I would a film camera. I expose it to my best ability and let the “film” do the rest. ...
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That's the way I use my X-Pro1. However, I don't even bother with RAW, because the jpegs are perfectly OK for me. I don't use any of the film modes explicitly - whatever the default is, that's what I use. After all, if I want a film "look" I've got plenty of real film and film cameras.

jsrockit said:
Not this agnostic. I truly hate fully articulated screens. Nothing screams Dad at a Wedding more than guys who prefer this method of framing photos. I know it’s my hang up, but I’m not alone.
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No, you're not alone at all.
 
So...

fully-articulated LCD = dad at a wedding

but...

LCD hinged at the bottom = a very cool, real serious photographer?

:rolleyes:
 
aizan said:
So...

fully-articulated LCD = dad at a wedding

but...

LCD hinged at the bottom = a very cool, real serious photographer?

:rolleyes:
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No, I'm a 46 year old man that is certainly on the opposite side of cool by default. I don't need any hinge at all. I just prefer a real VF. I prefer a more traditional camera. I would have been fine with a fixed screen also. I'm not saying Fuji did it perfectly, but I hate fully articulating screens. They were always included in cameras I did not care for. Generally speaking... it just isn't my style. I just don't like the way the hinge looks when it fully articulates. So, yeah, for me... I prefer the X-Pro3 implementation.

On a side note...if Dad at the Wedding makes great photos that way, then that's awesome and I won't be biased. I'm not a hater of great photos made on equipment I don't like. However, we all have things that bother us when it comes to cameras.
 
One curious thing I’ve noticed is how many people shoot 90% EVF with xpro cameras. Just curious if it is just the form factor of the camera that the premium for the Xpro is paid over something like an XT3 which supposedly has the top of the line EVF? I’ve used mine primarily with the OVF and only use the EVF for critical focus. I’m actually considering grabbing an xt30 or xt3 IF I want a camera from this sensor generation.
 
I prefer the RF shape, the lack of a huge grip, and the VF being on the side. I've tried the X-T series a few times and never quite like it. I have an X-H1 right now and kind of like it. Still, I prefer the X-Pro and even X-E cameras.
 
Ccoppola82 said:
One curious thing I’ve noticed is how many people shoot 90% EVF with xpro cameras. Just curious if it is just the form factor of the camera that the premium for the Xpro is paid over something like an XT3 which supposedly has the top of the line EVF? I’ve used mine primarily with the OVF and only use the EVF for critical focus. I’m actually considering grabbing an xt30 or xt3 IF I want a camera from this sensor generation.
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I don't have an Xpro, but probably will get one at some point. I do however, have an X100t, which is similar. I'd say I use my EVF/OVF around 50/50, but even so, for me, it's 100% about the rangefinder style design and viewfinder placement. I used an XT2 that belonged to work a few years back and couldn't get into it at all. I don't think i'd buy any new camera at this point that's not a rangefinder style. I just prefer the layout better.
 
Ccoppola82 said:
One curious thing I’ve noticed is how many people shoot 90% EVF with xpro cameras. Just curious if it is just the form factor of the camera that the premium for the Xpro is paid over something like an XT3 which supposedly has the top of the line EVF? I’ve used mine primarily with the OVF and only use the EVF for critical focus. I’m actually considering grabbing an xt30 or xt3 IF I want a camera from this sensor generation.
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Jonas Rask mentions that most X-Pro owners do use the EVF a lot more than the OVF:

https://jonasraskphotography.com/20...d-first-look-extensive-preview/#comment-42052

The majority of users of the pro use the EVF more than the OVF. I saw the statistical research, it was quite a difference.
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I wonder if Fuji will now bump up the X-E series to "pro" status. I've been saying they should do that, aside from Leica making an EVF-only version of the M.
 
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