btgc
Veteran
Original DP - considering it's dimensions, take into account that many mod to have lens extended permanently to prevent ribbon cable wear. Mine isn't pocketable anymore (not that I ever carried it in a pocket) 
Is the dp2m thicker than the old dp2?
If not, it is still pocketable.
I will google that
It's similar... may I ask what type of pants you wear because my DP2 Merrill would never fit in my pants. My days of super baggy pants are over.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
If this is no vapor-ware, and anything as good as the original GRD I briefly owned and the GXR I currently shoot, I might ditch my Leica film bodies altogether and use the Leitz glass only, with this GRD V.
I might ditch my Leica film bodies altogether and use the Leitz glass only, with this GRD V.
How can you do that?
nightfly
Well-known
The more I think of it, the less it makes sense to put in such a big sensor if it's going to change the form factor and still call it a GRD. Taking the Sony sensor that's in the RX100 would make much more sense.
But who knows...
But who knows...
steveniphoto
Well-known
this is what it boils down to for many people. thats why i decided to skip out on the RX100 and the upcoming Pentax camera.
btgc
Veteran
Why so much ado for VF? Don't think any of GRD's had it. Suddenly, with a larger sensor, it's a deal breaker?
nightfly
Well-known
Every time there is talk of a new camera on RFF, no matter how big or small or if it's a successor to a previous version that also didn't have a viewfinder, a number of people find it necessary to post that they won't buy it because it doesn't have a viewfinder.
It should just be some sort of automated bot. Perhaps it is.
Or maybe a separate sub forum, Viewfinderless Cameras although I guess since it is the Rangefinder Forum, perhaps they truly don't belong.
It should just be some sort of automated bot. Perhaps it is.
Or maybe a separate sub forum, Viewfinderless Cameras although I guess since it is the Rangefinder Forum, perhaps they truly don't belong.
Michael Markey
Veteran
I use feel that way about the necessity of having a viewfinder for years.
When I bought my GRD I also bought a CV 28 VF and ,you know what , I never use it.
Slows you down...much more intuitive and fluid to use it without but at first its a hard habit to break.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
If this is no vapor-ware, and anything as good as the original GRD I briefly owned and the GXR I currently shoot, I might ditch my Leica film bodies altogether and use the Leitz glass only, with this GRD V.
How can you do that?
Pretty simple. This is the Ricoh GXR-M at 2500 ISO(!) with a Summilux 1.4/35mm attached:
Kerstpakkettenactie 2012 by johanniels.com, on Flickr
What else would anyone wish for? I really can't see how I could better this with a film body... Not with my sloppy developing techniques...
kshapero
South Florida Man
Ricoh always a bit different. I like it.
Michael Markey
Veteran
I must admit that I feel the same way Johan.
I`d be very happy with results like that.
I`d be very happy with results like that.
DougFord
on the good foot
If they keep it compact it could be a pip. With a properly placed hot shoe a fixed focal length lens camera can be used old school Leica style.
I really do think that this sort of camera configuration, sans Vf, should have the optional use of an external OVF with ' heads - up' display technology. This would really bring the configuration up to date sort of speak while taking a design cue from an earlier age of photography.
The problem is electronic viewfinders are all the rage. But a OVF done right, on a fixed fl camera with heads up display tech would be sweet.
I'm not sure but maybe Fuji is using HUD tech on the x20 Vf?
I really do think that this sort of camera configuration, sans Vf, should have the optional use of an external OVF with ' heads - up' display technology. This would really bring the configuration up to date sort of speak while taking a design cue from an earlier age of photography.
The problem is electronic viewfinders are all the rage. But a OVF done right, on a fixed fl camera with heads up display tech would be sweet.
I'm not sure but maybe Fuji is using HUD tech on the x20 Vf?
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
A GRD V that could take the EVF of the Ricoh GXR would certainly win me over!
dogbunny
Registered Boozer
I was all set to pony up for the new x100s. This certainly complicates things.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
To keep the camera slim, I think they need to get rid of the LCD.
In its place, transfer a preview image wirelessly into my smartphone.
The biggest irony is that the original GR-1 managed a full-frame "sensor", an optical VF and it's not thicker than the current GRD cameras. Yet still have a space for a film canister *and* a motor strong enough to wind it both ways.
In its place, transfer a preview image wirelessly into my smartphone.
The biggest irony is that the original GR-1 managed a full-frame "sensor", an optical VF and it's not thicker than the current GRD cameras. Yet still have a space for a film canister *and* a motor strong enough to wind it both ways.
raphaelaaron
Well-known
i just bought a IV, but if results turn out promising, wouldn't mind at all snatching this baby up either.
i would really hope the size stays generally the same. one of the main reasons i have been taking the GRD everywhere lately, and more often leaving my M9P at home (gasp)
i don't know if keeping the size is entirely possible with the added improvements, but if they do, that will be something i jump on.
i would really hope the size stays generally the same. one of the main reasons i have been taking the GRD everywhere lately, and more often leaving my M9P at home (gasp)
i don't know if keeping the size is entirely possible with the added improvements, but if they do, that will be something i jump on.
gavinlg
Veteran
Because camera manufacturers need to learn that leaving out viewfinders in cameras like the GRD's makes them a half baked product. A small GR1v style optical VF doesn't take up much room at all.
gavinlg
Veteran
The biggest irony is that the original GR-1 managed a full-frame "sensor", an optical VF and it's not thicker than the current GRD cameras. Yet still have a space for a film canister *and* a motor strong enough to wind it both ways.
Exactly. It CAN be done.
dreilly
Chillin' in Geneva
Exciting news. Ricoh makes good cameras. I wish their JPEG engine was a little better...I don't like shooting raw. Still, they will be one step behind Fuji with the X100s and the X-trans sensor. But fast autofocus would be nice. I found my x100 and xe-1 sluggish...