GR Digital V to have APS-C sensor

[btgc]

28mm prime is harder to sell than 35mm prime.

I think, this assumption lives from golden era of film P&S cameras. This days lots of compacts start from 28mm eq. FOV, 24mm isn't a rarity. Even moms like they can get all family at the table in a single frame.

As for enthusiasts, I think 28mm and around-45mm are much more popular than 35mm. 35 is a wild guess, stone thrown in a crowd, neither really wide nor regular.

 

[Griffin]

I think, this assumption lives from golden era of film P&S cameras. This days lots of compacts start from 28mm eq. FOV, 24mm isn't a rarity. Even moms like they can get all family at the table in a single frame.

As for enthusiasts, I think 28mm and around-45mm are much more popular than 35mm. 35 is a wild guess, stone thrown in a crowd, neither really wide nor regular.

I heartily agree!

 

[erikhaugsby]

Anyone heard an actual release date beyond "May 2013". Just wondering if that means beginning, middle or end. Seems like they are orchestrating the roll out pretty well judging by the response here and elsewhere.

A retailer in Paris told me that he'll have them from May 10.

I wish I knew of a Ricoh AD closer to me (Innsbruck, Austria) - any ideas?

 

[cam]

A retailer in Paris told me that he'll have them from May 10.

I wish I knew of a Ricoh AD closer to me (Innsbruck, Austria) - any ideas?

did you speak with Marcel (L'Instantine) in Paris?

 

[jsrockit]

I think, this assumption lives from golden era of film P&S cameras. This days lots of compacts start from 28mm eq. FOV, 24mm isn't a rarity. Even moms like they can get all family at the table in a single frame.

I said primes, so that takes zooms out of the equation. I would argue that the long end of the zoom is typically used by amateurs more than the wide end.

As for enthusiasts, I think 28mm and around-45mm are much more popular than 35mm. 35 is a wild guess, stone thrown in a crowd, neither really wide nor regular.

Any proof of this? Cameras available today support the opposite. 35mm is considered normal by many people.

 

[shadowfox]

As for enthusiasts, I think 28mm and around-45mm are much more popular than 35mm. 35 is a wild guess, stone thrown in a crowd, neither really wide nor regular.

35mm fits the way I compose perfectly.
I always take a step back when using 50mm and I find 28mm useable but prefer 24mm.

 

[erikhaugsby]

did you speak with Marcel (L'Instantine) in Paris?

I think it's okay for me to say "yes?" :angel:

 

[Aristophanes]

Mine as well.
Every time I remember I'd want to use it, I forgot to bring it.

Gosh, people, why can't they put the OVF in a pop-up space !!!???
Who here can't live without that little pop up flash?

Get rid of the flash.

Still no room.

Flash will sell far more (compared to the Nikon Coolpix A sans flash) than any OVF. That's why almost no one s making large compacts with built in OVF's.

Price may also be a factor. The flash may be $25 but an adequate OVF $100.

I fail to see why an excellent, optically precise and large OVF in the hotshoe is not good enough.

 

[bwidjaja]

That would be ideal since the position would also be excellent compared to the center of the camera. Never knew any camera that even has this though.

How about a DIY wire frame solution over the flash? Can be folded up or down as needed.
+ Works and cheap (should be)
+ Keep both eyes open and see outside the frame
+ Positioned like RF cameras
- May not be elegant

Mine as well.
Every time I remember I'd want to use it, I forgot to bring it.

Gosh, people, why can't they put the OVF in a pop-up space !!!???
Who here can't live without that little pop up flash?

Get rid of the flash.

 

[jsrockit]

I fail to see why an excellent, optically precise and large OVF in the hotshoe is not good enough.

Pocketability...

 

[Michael Markey]

Mine stays in my hand most of the time.
When it isn`t its in a small pouch with a CV28 finder in the hot shoe..

I`ve never found it to be too successful in a pocket as it always seems to switch itself on.

The odd thing is , I don`t use the finder a great deal .
Not doing so provides for a much more fluid shooting style.

I`m still surprised myself that I don`t use it..

 

[Murchu]

I fail to see why an excellent, optically precise and large OVF in the hotshoe is not good enough.

No focus confirmation in a shoe mounted OVF/ something to lose or snag on/ pocketability.. take your pick..

 

[dcsang]

<snip>Flash will sell far more (compared to the Nikon Coolpix A sans flash) than any OVF. </snip>

I'm not sure I'm exactly clear on what you are saying here but, just in terms of features, the Coolpix A does indeed have a built in flash.

Cheers,
Dave

 

[Exdsc]

In this day of everyone carrying a bag, why are people obsessed with a pocket size camera?


Or Moriyama videos on youtube might have something to do with this P&S resurgence?

 

[Archlich]

In this day of everyone carrying a bag, why are people obsessed with a pocket size camera?


Or Moriyama videos on youtube might have something to do with this P&S resurgence?

Why small at all?

Mr. Barnack had the answer exactly a century ago.

 

[David_Manning]

Moriyama shoots P&S's professionally, and so do Anders Petersen and Jacob Aue Sobol. Sobol shoots Ms too.

I love P&S cameras because of the ease of having it with me anytime (like a cellphone...imagine that), I just don't want a P&S-looking image. I can deal with EVF vice OVF and some ergonomic dysfunction (I can learn to use any camera, really), but I want a picture that at least at the start looks like it was taken with a professional camera.

We're certainly getting close to my ideal. The first camera that gets a FF sensor into a small chassis (like the new GR or Nikon A) with a 35mm lens will have my $$$ (and the RX1 is too large).

Still looking for a digital Contax T3.

 

[jsrockit]

In this day of everyone carrying a bag, why are people obsessed with a pocket size camera?

Or it can reworded to "I don't care about pocket cameras, so why does anyone else." I don't carry a bag generally. Sometimes the only reason to carry a bag is for a camera. Somedays, it's better to go without a bag. This fits in my pant's pocket. In the winter, in my coat pocket.

 

[nightfly]

It's the RF Forum, whatever you think should be applied to everyone else. There is only one right answer.

ALL CAMERAS MUST HAVE AN OPTICAL VIEWFINDER

ONE MUST CARRY A BAG

Come on get with the program guys...

 

[Exdsc]

I have shot with a P&S more than I'm willing to admit, some side effects include eye strain, a lot of useless images that makes editing a chore, unsatisfactory results because no emotional connection to the subject can be maintained while holding a small screen at arms length, and finally what you see on that small LCD is not what you'll see when opening the file on a computer screen.

And finally your images are no different than any tourist with a P&S shooting at arms length, don't take my words for it, reflect on it.

 

[Murchu]

I have shot with a P&S more than I'm willing to admit, some side effects include eye strain, a lot of useless images that makes editing a chore, unsatisfactory results because no emotional connection to the subject can be maintained while holding a small screen at arms length, and finally what you see on that small LCD is not what you'll see when opening the file on a computer screen.

And finally your images are no different than any tourist with a P&S shooting at arms length, don't take my words for it, reflect on it.

Reflect on what? That P&S's don't work for you?