maggieo
More Deadly
nksyoon said:
I got mine at noon and have already fired off 80 or so shots!
goo0h
Well-known
Now that's a lens test I can appreciate!jsuominen said:Hmm, you mean these kind of serious "tests"?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsuominen/2021792349/
Although they are not done with 35mm lens...
tribal.snake
Member
stupid qn though but...
i still can't see why the price diff between the 35mm and the 40mm differ so much
given the lens signature, handling and performance are abt the same...
anyone can chip in on this?
i still can't see why the price diff between the 35mm and the 40mm differ so much
given the lens signature, handling and performance are abt the same...
anyone can chip in on this?
photogdave
Shops local
Gotta agree with you here. I was hoping the 35 would be near the price of the 40. I'm still gonna get it though...tribal.snake said:
I can guess a couple reasons... I think the 35mm focal length will have broader interest in the market, as appropriate for many more cameras than the 40. With more demand, they maybe figure they can get a higher price.tribal.snake said:
Then, in the time since the 40 was produced (dunno if there's been a recent production run), the dollar has sunk relative to the yen? If so, that would be an exchange-rate reason.
Also, to achieve desired performance, a high speed lens with wider angle of view is incrementally more challenging to design and produce. Note the 35 f1.4 Nokton has an additional lens element over the 40, so it's a more complex product.
I don't know if I will get one or not. I have the 40 Nokton SC, whose 7/5 lens element arrangement is remarkably similar to my 35mm Zeiss Planar-G. The 8/6 35 f1.4 Nokton adds a second "extra" center element to a basic 6/4 Planar design. I also have a v.1 35 Summicron that is said to have a very similar 8 element arrangement. Then there's my 35 Biogon-ZM too... Should I get the new 35 Nokton? For the speed and compact size? Probably not necessary, but would be interesting to see how its look resembles and differs from the above. I could wait for a used one like I did the 40...
Hates_
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Oops, my bad! Yes I was thinking of the 1.2 NoktonKrosya said:
Just put my lens on and wow I really impressed with the fit and finish. Feels like a cracking small lens. Quality feels top notch, compared to all my other camera lenses. Loaded some film which I'll drop off at some cheap-o one hour lab, so I can upload some samples later.
Hates_
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Dropped off some cheap film at the cheapo processing place. Here are some examples. Shot on Fuji Superia 200 (Yuck) and scanned with my V700 (2400dpi). The photos are nothing special at all, I just wanted to make sure my new camera and lens worked
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15188-1/Scan244.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15192-1/Scan257.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15195-1/Scan301.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15198-1/Scan308.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15201-1/Scan317.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15188-1/Scan244.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15192-1/Scan257.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15195-1/Scan301.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15198-1/Scan308.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15201-1/Scan317.jpg
Hates_
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Yeah, finally got to test it todaysitemistic said:
Dan States
Established
Looks really good. Love that 4th shot.
ampguy
Veteran
very nice photos
very nice photos
I especially liked the last 3, However, the first two definitely show the sharpness that the lens is capable of.
very nice photos
I especially liked the last 3, However, the first two definitely show the sharpness that the lens is capable of.
Hates_ said:Dropped off some cheap film at the cheapo processing place. Here are some examples. Shot on Fuji Superia 200 (Yuck) and scanned with my V700 (2400dpi). The photos are nothing special at all, I just wanted to make sure my new camera and lens worked
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15188-1/Scan244.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15192-1/Scan257.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15195-1/Scan301.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15198-1/Scan308.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15201-1/Scan317.jpg
ijohnnyz
shoot pictures not people
I'm impress with your shots. Is that the SC or MC?
Hates_ said:Dropped off some cheap film at the cheapo processing place. Here are some examples. Shot on Fuji Superia 200 (Yuck) and scanned with my V700 (2400dpi). The photos are nothing special at all, I just wanted to make sure my new camera and lens worked
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15188-1/Scan244.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15192-1/Scan257.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15195-1/Scan301.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15198-1/Scan308.jpg
http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/15201-1/Scan317.jpg
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
Richard, great shots, the 3rd shot in the underpass is amazing. Looking at the lights at the top of the walls, virtually no flare and similar rendition all the way to the end.
Hacker
黑客
Tom A said:
Tom, are we suppose to see flare from "indoor" (covered) florescent lights? I thought most modern lenses handle this fairly easily.
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Ororaro
Well-known
Tom is not being fully transparent when it comes to praise anything CV...
Any el-cheapo lens would control flare in this situation.
Any el-cheapo lens would control flare in this situation.
fajars3977
Member
Just bought mine, it costs me around 450 dollars, very small lens, almost half the size of my Hexanon 50mm
findwolfhard
Established
SC vs MC
SC vs MC
Well,- this has been beaten to death, but with my order still being out for another 2 weeks, I `m a bit confused now. Stephen says,-
"The SC is excellent for color while giving slightly more shadow detail for B/W. The MC version gives the maximum amount of flare prevention while giving slightly higher contrast in B/W but less shadow detail. "
My specialized dealer here in Germany gave me information, that indicated just the opposite!
What to do? I already have the 40 in MC version and I tend towards the SC with the 35.
My idea is good shadow rendering in B&W and not too harsh a performance, I would rather sacrifice "exact" colours. I use color and B&W.
Best regards Wolfhard
SC vs MC
Well,- this has been beaten to death, but with my order still being out for another 2 weeks, I `m a bit confused now. Stephen says,-
"The SC is excellent for color while giving slightly more shadow detail for B/W. The MC version gives the maximum amount of flare prevention while giving slightly higher contrast in B/W but less shadow detail. "
My specialized dealer here in Germany gave me information, that indicated just the opposite!
What to do? I already have the 40 in MC version and I tend towards the SC with the 35.
My idea is good shadow rendering in B&W and not too harsh a performance, I would rather sacrifice "exact" colours. I use color and B&W.
Best regards Wolfhard
Hates_
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The shots are from an M.C. I've got one shot into the sun which shows some flare. I'll post it up later tonight.
sammysbar
Newbie
Richard, So far what's your verdict, if you have one?
Richard, So far what's your verdict, if you have one?
Your blog and your web site are first rate. - well done.
Have you run into any "personally disturbing bokeh to date" - for lack of a better term? Thanks
Richard, So far what's your verdict, if you have one?
Your blog and your web site are first rate. - well done.
Have you run into any "personally disturbing bokeh to date" - for lack of a better term? Thanks
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
NB23 said:
Flare can occur when a light shines into a lens, it doesn't matter if it is a lightbulb, flourescent tube or the sun.
As for not being transparent with VC products. I actually like lenses that cost a modest amount (by Leica standards) and that performs well. Yes, I have become a friend of Mr Kobayashi over the years, but I also have friends at Leica.
i appreciate some of the cutting edge stuff that Leica has done, the 50f1.4 Asph, the 75/2 Summicron, the Leica MP and i have spent my money on these. I dont like spending money on "hyped" lenses that I can find by other manufacturers at 1/3 or 1/4 of the price and that delivers performance equal to or better than the Leica products.
I am a black/white shooter by choice. I dont have to do it for money so I can indulge in taking pictures of what I like and how I see it. I mak no excuses for liking the VC products (or the Zeiss - or the Leica for that matter). As Rf shooters we have never had it so good. The choice of lenses is almost overwhelming and the quality is stunning. We can discuss the various merits of all of these lenses until the cows come home - but in the end it what we use the lens for that counts - taking pictures. If you like what the lens delivers, it is a good lens - if you dont, it is not a good lens -for you!
We are good friends with Erwin and his wife and try to get together at least once a year. Of course we discuss lenses, Leica, VC, Zeiss etc. Our views can differ radically, but we enjoy the process.
M
M like Leica M6
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NB23 said:
Any el-cheapo lens would be praised here as 'sharp'. I will upload some images from my cell phone camera and expect a lot of 'hooray for bokeh' nonsense.
It is so simple: we don't see a smal fraction of the images. We see a very low resolution. It is impossible to say something about the quality of a lens except "the glass is transparent".
Now, is this self-deception - or deception?