ChrisN
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Yep - the 75. I use the Pentax 77 LTD (on SLR) a fair bit and it's a useful and different perspective.
... paraphrasing Robert Capa.
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FPjohn
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Hello Raid:
Prosaic has the most practical advice.
I might comment, not quite 2c worth, that the Summilux is not as fully a modern lens as beasts like the apo 90mm; is to me at least, a normal lens with a bit of reach that in everyday use partially displaces my Elmar and Summicron(s).
A restriction on the Summilux is the need for those 75mm frame lines.
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FPJ
Prosaic has the most practical advice.
I might comment, not quite 2c worth, that the Summilux is not as fully a modern lens as beasts like the apo 90mm; is to me at least, a normal lens with a bit of reach that in everyday use partially displaces my Elmar and Summicron(s).
A restriction on the Summilux is the need for those 75mm frame lines.
yours
FPJ
squirrel$$$bandit
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75! You have enough 50's, Raid, and as much as I'm enjoying my Nokton 1.1, that 75 is supposed to be really special, and you'd probably get more creative enjoyment out of it.
raid
Dad Photographer
I don't have a fast 35mm lens except the old Summicron with goggles and Canon 35mm lenses. The 35mm/1.2 is quite tempting to me for being a one lens travel lens for all purposes. I may have a one month trip to Cairo next year, and since I will travel alone, I will be doing non-family type photography in the streets there. The 35/1.2 would cover me well for all type of light situations, including the interior of mosques and narrow alleys.
Mentioning "alleys", THANKS Joe! I got the film.
So the 35mm/1.2 alongside the Nikkor 105mm/2.5 LTM would make a great travel [but heavy] lens combo. I use a 105 lens also in F mount with the FE2. I am very used to using it.
I like my Zeiss Sonnar 5cm 1.5 LTM more than any 50mm lens I own, and I am getting slowly sued to the slower Heliar 50mm 3.5. I am now more convinced than three days ago that the Nokton 50mm 1.1 is not needed for my situation.
If there are two good options, I will choose the less costly one.
Mentioning "alleys", THANKS Joe! I got the film.
So the 35mm/1.2 alongside the Nikkor 105mm/2.5 LTM would make a great travel [but heavy] lens combo. I use a 105 lens also in F mount with the FE2. I am very used to using it.
I like my Zeiss Sonnar 5cm 1.5 LTM more than any 50mm lens I own, and I am getting slowly sued to the slower Heliar 50mm 3.5. I am now more convinced than three days ago that the Nokton 50mm 1.1 is not needed for my situation.
If there are two good options, I will choose the less costly one.
Al Kaplan
Veteran
I suspect that the main reason for introducing the 75mm focal length to the line-upwas to sell everybody a new lens, hopefully a new body, and lots of "upgrades" to add 75mm frame lines to older Leicas. If you want a different look find yourself a 90mm f/1.8 Angenieux. I don't think that in real life situations any of us really need anything faster than f/1.4, but maybe that's just me.
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i thought it was capa who said that.
Roger Hicks
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Dear Al,
I don't think so, for two reasons. The first is that it wasn't a new focal length: the 73/1.9 Hektor dated from the 1930s, and appealed to the same market as the 75 Summilux, an ultra-fast longer-than-standard lens ideal for theatre photography and portraits in particular.
The second is that a 75 is a surprisingly different lens from a 90, just as an 18 is surprisingly different from a 21. Since I got the 75/2 I have used the 90/2 very little: 35+75 is overwhelmingly my favourite combination for 24x36mm, along with 24+50 (=32+67 equivalent, both slightly wider) on the M8/M8.2.
Cheers,
R.
raid
Dad Photographer
Hello Roger,
I also get the feeling that a 35/75 medium fast to fast combo would be a great kit to have.
Hi Al,
I already have a 90/2, so the Angenieux while being am exotic and elusive lens would not give me any new perspectives. The main point is actually the rarity of such a lens.
raid
Dad Photographer
This is a good question, Joe.
I seem to like both these days. There is room for two types of rendering of people. The Sonnar look is very pleasing to my eyes, but the modern look is also good in open shade. In full sunshine, I still prefer the old look. Modern lenses will have an edge in low light photography when higher resolution and added contrast may help for some type of photos. Vintage lenses are also great for romantic looks in low light scenes.
FPjohn
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Summilux = best of both worlds ?
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Sonnar Brian
Established
At $1,500 it's hard to go wrong. You can resell it for at least that. If I walked into a shop and saw a Leitz 75/1.5 for $1500, out would come the credit card. And the balance would be paid that month.
raid
Dad Photographer
Hi Bill,
I already have different lenses, but I may have a small gap [or maybe not] for a very fast medium tele or moderate wide lens.
I sometimes use a Nikon F2 [I sold my F], but it is not anymore for me a prcatical camera to use. I prefer the FE2 for faster action photography with built-in meter and flash usage. The Nikkor 105mm 2.5 is glued to my FE2.
raid
Dad Photographer
Hi Brian,
Knowing how well you manage to find super deals, your statement above is a strong one! If you find $1500 to be very low, then it is very low.
FPjohn
Well-known
that is the 2nd version.
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thomasw_
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hey raid,
i'd recommend either the 75 lux or 35/1,2. Both render uniquely and very beautifully; as a sonnar lover either will grab your fancy in terms of the images, though the 75 gets the edge in terms of DoF. Inasmuch as i love the 35/1,2 look, it was very large for a RF 35 -- yet alone for an all-round travel lens. Of course the 75 is a big bertha, but that comes with longer FLs, so it is not a big contrast in size/weight from a 90 etc..
As a 50 FL guy, I can say that you will find shooting the 75 to be a sweet spot.
But if you are determined for a lowlight all-round 35 for travelling, I'd recommend either the pre-asph lux 35 [over 2,3M in SN] or the CV 35/1,4. Both are much more compact. Both will do service in a wide range of light. The pre-asph lux has a very distinct glow and grittiness. Roland, jon and others can tell you loads about the cv 35/1,4.
If your budget is not more than 1500, then the lux 75 is perhaps not attainable. If this is the case, I'd go with what I consider to be the best all-round 35.
Hope this helps,
Thomas
i'd recommend either the 75 lux or 35/1,2. Both render uniquely and very beautifully; as a sonnar lover either will grab your fancy in terms of the images, though the 75 gets the edge in terms of DoF. Inasmuch as i love the 35/1,2 look, it was very large for a RF 35 -- yet alone for an all-round travel lens. Of course the 75 is a big bertha, but that comes with longer FLs, so it is not a big contrast in size/weight from a 90 etc..
As a 50 FL guy, I can say that you will find shooting the 75 to be a sweet spot.
But if you are determined for a lowlight all-round 35 for travelling, I'd recommend either the pre-asph lux 35 [over 2,3M in SN] or the CV 35/1,4. Both are much more compact. Both will do service in a wide range of light. The pre-asph lux has a very distinct glow and grittiness. Roland, jon and others can tell you loads about the cv 35/1,4.
If your budget is not more than 1500, then the lux 75 is perhaps not attainable. If this is the case, I'd go with what I consider to be the best all-round 35.
Hope this helps,
Thomas
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raid
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FPjohn
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raid,some funny business with the server. The image is of the second Summilux.
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raid
Dad Photographer
Thanks for the suggestions, Thomas.
I am fortunate in that a Version II 75mm 1.4 is available to me for $1500. That's all of the cash I can raise these days. I sold stuff to get the $1500. I would not have done it if the prospective lens buy was not attractive.
ferider
Veteran
All three lenses would give you new capabilities. I were you, I would pick the 75. Two reasons:
- you shoot mostly portraits these days
- integrity towards the seller who is currently holding the lens for you.
While the price is great, it wouldn't be my major decision factor, given you seem to have the funds available and the purchase approved by the CDFO (Chief Domestic Financial Officer).
Having said this, I must also admit that I am both biased towards cool Tele lenses, and Big Bertha in particular. 🙂
Cheers,
Roland.
- you shoot mostly portraits these days
- integrity towards the seller who is currently holding the lens for you.
While the price is great, it wouldn't be my major decision factor, given you seem to have the funds available and the purchase approved by the CDFO (Chief Domestic Financial Officer).
Having said this, I must also admit that I am both biased towards cool Tele lenses, and Big Bertha in particular. 🙂
Cheers,
Roland.
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raid
Dad Photographer
Hi Roland,
I would never back off an agreement, but the seller gave me a month to decide and to raise the cash.
Yes, the CDFO is on good terms with me! I feel the same way as you about a Big Bertha. The Summicron 90/2 is also a Big Julia [I made that one up here!].
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