Hood for 50 1.4 Nikon S2

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Hi all
I'm very happy to have received my first ever Nikon rangefinder this week. I'm not sure what took me so long to acquire one.
I'm looking for an alternative to the original hood for the 50 1.4. I would prefer something that will not obscure the finder too much. I tend to use the simple screw in hood that was designed for the Elmar 2.8M on my Leica lenses and was wondering if there is something similar in 43mm that wont vignette. Personally, i would like to say away from vented hoods if at all possible. Basically, the smaller the better. Any ideas, advice would be most appreciated as always. Thank you!
 
megido said:
...Personally, i would like to say away from vented hoods if at all possible. Basically, the smaller the better. Any ideas, advice would be most appreciated as always. Thank you!
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If you just want a simple cylinder, get a few old filters, take the glass out, stack them up and paint the inside of them flat black.

Phil Forrest
 
Phil_F_NM said:
If you just want a simple cylinder, get a few old filters, take the glass out, stack them up and paint the inside of them flat black.

Phil Forrest
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Thank you Phil for reminding me of that option. I would prefer a hood if at all possible. Anyone using a simple circular hood without vignetting?
 
megido said:
I would prefer a hood if at all possible. Anyone using a simple circular hood without vignetting?
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On my black old style (before the Olympic) Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 I have an original early two piece Nikon hood. Mine is black paint, extremely rare, but in chrome they are quite common. You can unscrew the top part and put a filter in it. It is cylindric and screws on the lens.

However, you'll see the hood in the viewfinder.

So maybe it is better to buy a Chinese cylindric hood with a 43mm screw mount on eBay and ask your bike repairman to cut off a piece from the front. I did that with a 41mm cylindric hood for my Summilux 35mm f/1.4 steel rim. So happy with the result.

Erik.
 
As a test, I got out an S2, put the 5cm f/1.4 Nikkor lens on it, and clipped on an original Nippon Kogaku flared lens hood made for that lens -- it was clearly visible (albeit blurred) in the lower right corner of the finder. I swapped out that hood for a Walz "made for Nikkor f/1.4" cylindrical vented hood, and it was quite a bit less visible. So I think finding a short cylindrical vented hood wold be what you want -- authenticity aside. Truth be told, I'm not a big fan on Nikon clip-on lens hoods, as they seem only too willing to jump off at the worst moment; I prefer screw-in hoods that stay put.
 
Trask said:
As a test, I got out an S2, put the 5cm f/1.4 Nikkor lens on it, and clipped on an original Nippon Kogaku flared lens hood made for that lens
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Yes the flared hoods are unusable. They were made to fit in the everready case only I think.

The hoods I was talking about are cylindric and screw into the filter ring of the lens. They are in two parts. A filter can be put in between. Usually they are chrome with a stainless steel front. A very few were made in black.

Erik.
 
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This is a good idea Erik. Cutting off a piece from the front is to avoid the possibility of vignetting? How deep is your Summilux hood now?
Thank you in advance
 
Trask said:
As a test, I got out an S2, put the 5cm f/1.4 Nikkor lens on it, and clipped on an original Nippon Kogaku flared lens hood made for that lens -- it was clearly visible (albeit blurred) in the lower right corner of the finder. I swapped out that hood for a Walz "made for Nikkor f/1.4" cylindrical vented hood, and it was quite a bit less visible. So I think finding a short cylindrical vented hood wold be what you want -- authenticity aside. Truth be told, I'm not a big fan on Nikon clip-on lens hoods, as they seem only too willing to jump off at the worst moment; I prefer screw-in hoods that stay put.
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Authenticity is not a priority. Especially seeing the prices of the original hoods! I've seen the Walz hood which seems more unobstrusive than some modern vented hoods. Screw in would be ideal.
 
I have the Waltz shade too. Beautifully made, but it disturbs the viewfinder.

My Chinese hood "41mm" for the Summilux 35mm f/1.4 steel rim is 11mm. No vignetting whatsoever. I polished the cutted surface and painted it with two component paint.

11 mm will be fine for the Nikkor 50mm too. You can use the hood then also for a 35mm lens.

Erik.
 
Erik van Straten said:
I have the Waltz shade too. Beautifully made, but it disturbs the viewfinder.

My Chinese hood "41mm" for the Summilux 35mm f/1.4 steel rim is 11mm. No vignetting whatsoever. I polished the cutted surface and painted it with two component paint.

11 mm will be fine for the Nikkor 50mm too. You can use the hood then also for a 35mm lens.

Erik.
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Thank you Erik, I'm going to try this. Just one thing, is this with or without a filter?
 
I tend to use hoods of this sort (link below) available cheaply on eBay.

It is my practice to use 43mm hoods for all lenses with this size or a smaller diameter. There are three advantages to this. The first is that with smaller diameter lenses (most of them of course are - 39mm, 40mm, 40.5mm and 41mm for example) there is less chance of vignetting. The second benefit is that by using equally cheap stepping rings I can swap hoods between multiple different lenses without worrying if I can find a hood of a different diameter when I need one. The third benefit is that when using my lenses on a Leica M8 I only need to buy one size UV cut filter which tend to be expensive and are becoming harder to find in any size.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/non-vented...343669?hash=item3d5a70bff5:g:4SgAAOSwWxNYyTUQ
 
peterm1 said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/non-vented...343669?hash=item3d5a70bff5:g:4SgAAOSwWxNYyTUQ
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This looks like a copy of the well know Waltz shade. It's nice, but still interferes in the viewfinder and its diameter is larger than the diameter of the lens barrel.

My ideal is the shade for the Elmar-M 50mm f/2.8, just a ring in the filter mount with the same diameter as the lens. The advantage is that it does not show up in the viewfinder and is small enough to carry around on the camera all day without causing any discomfort or irritation and accepting the same lens cap as the lens.

Erik.
 
Trask said:
Truth be told, I'm not a big fan on Nikon clip-on lens hoods, as they seem only too willing to jump off at the worst moment; I prefer screw-in hoods that stay put.
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Can't tell you how many times this happened to me before I started using black gaffers tape to hold them on. Not terribly "authentic" and certainly not "classy looking", but I was so tired of those thing popping off. Can't believe Nikon made them that way for so many years, what were they thinking.

Best,
-Tim
 
Erik van Straten said:
So maybe it is better to buy a Chinese cylindric hood with a 43mm screw mount on eBay and ask your bike repairman to cut off a piece from the front. I did that with a 41mm cylindric hood for my Summilux 35mm f/1.4 steel rim. So happy with the result.
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Cutting a piece off the front of the lens hood so that the hood doesn't get into the viewfinder will not do it with a Nikon rangefinder : the whole lens rotate when you focus.

A $5 Chinese tilted and vented 43mm hood will work just fine. A vintage Hoya 43mm cylindric vented hood will do it as well. Okay you see the hood in the viewfinder but the three large enough vents are efficient and after you've got used to it you don't notice the lens hood any longer.

If you want something cylindrical and short similar to the hood that was designed for the Leica M Elmar 50mm f/2.8, look at the short Heliopan lens hood :

http://www.lumiere-shop.de/Heliopan-lens-hood-metal-short-E-43mm-amount-13mm

You can also find some Chinese 43mm screw-in cylindric hoods with similarly 44mm wide hood bodies, but they are longer than the Heliopan short model mentioned above and would vignette with the Nikkor-S-C 50mm f/1.4 (their 40.5mm siblings won't vignette with the Nikkor-H-C 50mm f/2).
 
megido said:
The Heliopan looks perfect. Just ordered one. Thank you very much for the info!
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I did not know this offer from Helioplan, looks good!

For the Summilux 35mm steel rim this is not a good solution because Helioplan does not offer this shade with a 41mm thread.

Erik.
 
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