how do you expose Eastman Double X (5222) ?

XX (E.I. 250) in Atomal from Wehner 10:00 minutes at 20C. The real iso is even at G=0,55 a bit higher then iso 250. When going to 0,62 (which I am using with my Dunco 67 enlarger condensor/diffuser type) it will touch iso 400.

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SkyOrbita said:
some examples

iso 400 with D76 stock
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iso200 with Perceptol 1+2
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iso250 with Rodinal 1+50
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iso800 with LQN 1+4
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Some nice shots here. I'd say the EI 200, 250, and 400 shots here look good, with nice contrast. I think the 800 example lacks shadow detail, almost (but not quite) soot and chalk. So I'm thinking that 1600 might be a bridge too far, at nearly 4 stops. It would be interesting to see it at 1600 in D-DX, though--or even 800/1000.
 
Is this film better than its ORWO competitors? (UN54 and N74)
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Comparing to N74+ the XX film has a wider exposure range. XX you can use between iso 100-800 with an ultra fine grain developer (iso 100) to iso 800 with any speed enhanced type developer without loss of many quality.

UN54 is a regular (cine) iso 100 film. Let us say comparable with Fomapan 100, RPX-100, APX-100(New)/Kentmere 100.
 
^^^^^^^ I guessing he found his own dilution. "B" is 6.5m at 320 (400)
may be 1:50, (6ml for 300ml per roll) for 11m

I use 600ml with "H" and put 10ml of syrup to 590ml water.
I just bought 4 rolls of 5222, and will shoot it at 400, and develop it according to the Master Dev Chart app for HC110 "H" -- 14m @ 20c-- 5222 has a great latitude.

I usually take an ISO test roll from 200-1600 for a first time user roll. But, I think with 5222 I can skip that.
 
DanskDynamit said:
beautiful shots mate but this is not a gallery thread. At least share some information.
cheers.🙂
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NP 😀

I started an XX thread years ago here, which has everything you will ever want to know about souping XX, with boku examples. Go look, it will take you a while 😉 This film works well in just about any type of developer. I would say my favorite tonality wise is still D76 or ID11 (but it dosen't keep well). I also have used; Dr. Bloods, Leica (Beutler) Developer, Diafine, D76 (I mix my own ADOX/Borax MQ) and a few others. One I still want to experiment with is ACUFINE for higher speed.

These four examples are:

Eastman XX, Straight Legacy Pro Microdol-X (from Freestyle) replenished. I've used the same gallon of stock for all of my B&W film (roll, sheet, 35mm). The stock solution is now four years old!! 😱 Seems to get better with age 😉

I bracket my XX shots, if it's something important to me at the moment, I want to make sure I can really nail the exposure, under all circumstances. I shoot one at EI 250, then open one stop, shoot another. Sometimes I will open an additional stop and shoot a third frame. Film is cheap to me. Microdol-X is NOT a speed enhancing developer, the film requires additional exposure. Whatever it takes and whatever works. When I look at the dried negs I am usually glad that i have given myself a choice of exposure.

I process in a JOBO 2500 Multi -Tank 4 or 5, spinning on an old Unicolor Uniroller. With Mic-X, development times tends to be extremely long.... When it is cold in the winter in my basement darkroom I have gone as long as thirty minutes. The developer is soft working and very compensating. I happen to love the tonal range I'm getting with the combo. Back in the seventies Microdol-X was my favorite developer, along with Acufine for low light work.

The big XX thread is here:

https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52426
 
If shadow detail is lacking, simply increase exposure.
If highlight density is lacking, increase development.

That's it. It's a very forgiving film.

D76 for 8-10 minutes at 68F is pretty bulletproof for ISO 250. ISO 200 for tungsten lighting.
What are you trying to achieve?
 
What is the current purchase price of this Eastman XX 35mm film for 100 feet? (*or 400 feet, as it is motion picture film)
 
xayraa33 said:
What is the current purchase price of this Eastman XX 35mm film for 100 feet? (*or 400 feet, as it is motion picture film)
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Cheapest way (per 36 exp roll) is 400' direct from Kodak Motion Picture NYC
1-800-621-FILM Call them and ask 🙂
Very friendly folks. Take VISA and practically next day shipment

Last time I bought some it was $1.69/roll But is may have gone up
 
Nokton48 said:
Cheapest way is 400' direct from Kodak Motion Picture NYC
1-800-621-FILM
Very friendly folks. Take VISA and practically next day shipment
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Thanks for the info.

The Kodak website is very sketchy, and not very informative, no price given, not even film width is mentioned, as it could be a reel of 16mm 5222 film that they are referring to, as it is motion picture film.

The only place I found online is Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-Motion...ck-White-Negative-Film-5222-400-/251351819342

And that is pricey film with the CDN dollar to USD exchange rate, compared to a hundred feet of Arista 100 or Kentmere 100 from B&H for 40 USD and free shipping to Canada if one orders three 100 foot bulk film rolls.
 
I seem to remember $212 for 400 feet but that was several years ago.

There was a time (when I started the XX thread) that you could buy scraps of XX from Hollywood movie cameras for 17 US Cents a foot. Sadly those days are long gone.

I don't use this film because of the price. I buy it because of it's unique retro qualities and I vastly prefer it's midtone tonalities compared to other films I have and also use.

To get a current price you have to call them
 
Nokton48 said:
I seem to remember $212 for 400 feet but that was several years ago.

There was a time (when I started the XX thread) that you could buy scraps of XX from Hollywood movie cameras for 17 US Cents a foot. Sadly those days are long gone.

I don't use this film because of the price. I buy it because of it's unique retro qualities and I vastly prefer it's midtone tonalities compared to other films I have and also use.

To get a current price you have to call them
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$212 USD would be OK in today's world but not over $400 USD for a price of over 130 CDN dollars per hundred feet of film, at that price it is cheaper to bite the bullet and just buy a hundred feet of bulk Tri X from Henry's or DC Camera in Toronto, and that is paying through the nose from those shops.

Tom A would probably know a relatively current price of Kodak 5222 film, as he uses tons of it and he lives in BC Canada, so he has to also deal with the exchange rate, duty, tax and shipping cost.
 
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