thompsonks
Well-known
In case nobody noticed, there's a Millennium Nikkor for sale at a favorable price in the RFF classified section. These are pretty hard to find, separate from the camera body.
I'm not connected with the seller – I just want this to go to one of us who's likely to use it, not store it in a collection.
Kirk
I'm not connected with the seller – I just want this to go to one of us who's likely to use it, not store it in a collection.
Kirk
rbsinto
Well-known
I have one that came with the re-issued S3 I recently bought from a RRF member, and it has been on the body once. I'm not particularly fond of the 50mm focal length so I'd consider selling the lens if I had a good idea what they typically go for.
Anyone?
Anyone?
JMQ
Well-known
rbsinto
Well-known
Vickko
Veteran
$850 to $1000. Any cheaper and I'd be buying one
ray*j*gun
Veteran
They are quite hard to find seperatly as noted. With the prices of lesser lenses going for amazing dollars I wouldn't sell mine for the listed price in the classifieds.
bobkonos
Well-known
"One of us"?
"One of us"?
"I just want this to go to one of us who's likely to use it, not store it in a collection."
Why do you care what somebody does with their equipment? I happen to have one of these sitting in a box with its S3 2000 companion...on a shelf. And for now I like it like that. And I happen to have the funds to buy this and use it...if I choose to. I also use a lot of my equipment and have my 11th photography exhibit up now. So am I "one of us"? I am sick and tired of some people's opinions on this forum about whether somebody collects or uses or both. It is their choice, and if you think you are in some kind of cool "users club" ...you are missing the whole point. There I said it, and about time.
"One of us"?
"I just want this to go to one of us who's likely to use it, not store it in a collection."
Why do you care what somebody does with their equipment? I happen to have one of these sitting in a box with its S3 2000 companion...on a shelf. And for now I like it like that. And I happen to have the funds to buy this and use it...if I choose to. I also use a lot of my equipment and have my 11th photography exhibit up now. So am I "one of us"? I am sick and tired of some people's opinions on this forum about whether somebody collects or uses or both. It is their choice, and if you think you are in some kind of cool "users club" ...you are missing the whole point. There I said it, and about time.
brbo
Well-known
You are sick and tired of "users" and he is sick and tired of collectors.
You have a right to feel good staring at the box on the shelf and he has a right to feel good about using his equipment. At least that's how I feel it should be.
There, I said it!
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Well said Bob, and good for you too.
There's a lot of short-sightedness and judgmental posting here lately and (I hate to point this out but I feel it needs to be said too) it's mostly from either young or new members.
In case you are young, or new, or judgmental all around, may I suggest the following forum to get rid of such feelings and compulsions: LINK
Now, let's all get constructive, empathic and supportive again, shall we?
There's a lot of short-sightedness and judgmental posting here lately and (I hate to point this out but I feel it needs to be said too) it's mostly from either young or new members.
In case you are young, or new, or judgmental all around, may I suggest the following forum to get rid of such feelings and compulsions: LINK
Now, let's all get constructive, empathic and supportive again, shall we?
bobkonos
Well-known
No, I am not "sick and tired of users." (Please re-read my post.) I am tired of judmental posts and judgements made about what someone does with their equipment. All he had to say was: "Heads up, a terrific lens at a great price." And I agree with how you feel-that's exactly why I am making this point.
MikeL
Go Fish
Johan, don't forget to include those with all the answers. Luckily, those who have everything figured out, usually leave and end up here:
Link
thompsonks
Well-known
"I just want this to go to one of us who's likely to use it, not store it in a collection."
Bob, no offense. This is just my opinion and we're entitled to that amount of difference. Opinions are inherently judgmental, so we needn't get excited about that part. And you say you plan to use that shelved Millennium Nikkor when you feel like it. I already knew you photograph with your gear as well as collect it. And I too am saving some equipment that's beautiful, even though I'm not certain I'll make use of it again.
I'm sure we agree that photography is a primary activity, collecting a secondary one. When I sell equipment I don't need, I'm pleased when it goes to a student or to an enthusiast who's going to find pleasure in the primary activity of photography – not in the secondary activity of lining up consumer goods on shelves or in glass cases (or even in a safe). But still, given one offer and knowing the equipment would be admired but never used again, I'd go ahead and sell.
The experience behind my opinion is that I knew Don Chatterton, who was one of the pioneers in buying used cameras in the US and selling them to Asian collectors. I sold him a couple of cameras, including a RolleiWide and also a modified Leica A that he wrote about in Shutterbug. The FedEx truck would pull into his suburban driveway and off they'd go. I understood that to him this was just a neutral business arrangement, but I came to regret the long-range trend that withdrew fine used equipment from the market and raised prices. It had a practical effect for my students who wanted a good used Leica.
Anyhow let's both enjoy shooting, exhibiting, and (some degree of) collecting. And I'll see you the when our SF RFF group gets together to gawk at gear – and then go take some pictures together.
Kirk
Bob, no offense. This is just my opinion and we're entitled to that amount of difference. Opinions are inherently judgmental, so we needn't get excited about that part. And you say you plan to use that shelved Millennium Nikkor when you feel like it. I already knew you photograph with your gear as well as collect it. And I too am saving some equipment that's beautiful, even though I'm not certain I'll make use of it again.
I'm sure we agree that photography is a primary activity, collecting a secondary one. When I sell equipment I don't need, I'm pleased when it goes to a student or to an enthusiast who's going to find pleasure in the primary activity of photography – not in the secondary activity of lining up consumer goods on shelves or in glass cases (or even in a safe). But still, given one offer and knowing the equipment would be admired but never used again, I'd go ahead and sell.
The experience behind my opinion is that I knew Don Chatterton, who was one of the pioneers in buying used cameras in the US and selling them to Asian collectors. I sold him a couple of cameras, including a RolleiWide and also a modified Leica A that he wrote about in Shutterbug. The FedEx truck would pull into his suburban driveway and off they'd go. I understood that to him this was just a neutral business arrangement, but I came to regret the long-range trend that withdrew fine used equipment from the market and raised prices. It had a practical effect for my students who wanted a good used Leica.
Anyhow let's both enjoy shooting, exhibiting, and (some degree of) collecting. And I'll see you the when our SF RFF group gets together to gawk at gear – and then go take some pictures together.
Kirk
JMQ
Well-known
Dear Kirk,
Well said. I did appreciate your giving everyone a HU on the Millenium Nikkor. Best,
Well said. I did appreciate your giving everyone a HU on the Millenium Nikkor. Best,
Dez
Bodger Extraordinaire
Is this lens actually significantly better than the "ordinary" RF Nikkor 50 f1.4?
What is it that causes it to sell for three times as much??
Cheers,
Dez
What is it that causes it to sell for three times as much??
Cheers,
Dez
I've had both and am partial to the vintage version.
thompsonks
Well-known
As above: The Millennium is a Planar design, whereas the original Nikkors were Sonnars. The Planar is a crisper lens; the Sonnar, at wide apertures, more 'classical'/Impressionistic. Sonnars offer (suffer) some focus shift, Planars less if any.
Somewhere on the Internet there's a Millennium/Summilux comparison. You might google it.
I like the Sonnar design at wide apertures for its gentle bokeh; but if/when you want a more up-to-date look, that's the Millennium.
The 'glow'/aberrations around the hand illustrate the elder 1.4 Nikkor,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thompsonkirk/7270468796/in/photostream/
And the exact resolution of the patterns of sun-through-silk represents the Millennium version:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thompsonkirk/8061548040/in/photostream/
Somewhere on the Internet there's a Millennium/Summilux comparison. You might google it.
I like the Sonnar design at wide apertures for its gentle bokeh; but if/when you want a more up-to-date look, that's the Millennium.
The 'glow'/aberrations around the hand illustrate the elder 1.4 Nikkor,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thompsonkirk/7270468796/in/photostream/
And the exact resolution of the patterns of sun-through-silk represents the Millennium version:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thompsonkirk/8061548040/in/photostream/