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I Have Turned To the Dark Side- I Bid You All Farewell
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ch1
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Of course, the other thing is - not knowing (and not wanting to know) your financial situation - do you really HAVE to sell everything?
If not, box all the stuff up and stash is somewhere. Your house or even send it off to an out of town relative (hello, cousin Rick 😀 ).
See how much (if at all) you miss the gear in six months or so. If it is "out of sight, out of mind" sell it then. If you "miss" it - you will be glad you didn't sell it now!
If not, box all the stuff up and stash is somewhere. Your house or even send it off to an out of town relative (hello, cousin Rick 😀 ).
See how much (if at all) you miss the gear in six months or so. If it is "out of sight, out of mind" sell it then. If you "miss" it - you will be glad you didn't sell it now!
billwheeler
Established
For inspiration, Rick, check out the street photography of jbuhler, a film photographer who for the past six months has photographed the passing scene with a small digital slr camera. Inspired and inspiring! Best wishes to you. Bill
www.jbuhler.com/index.html
www.jbuhler.com/index.html
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ch1
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Here we go....outta here on this one!
Andy K
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copake_ham said:
This is sound advice. I have lost count of the times I have seen people say "I used to have X,Y and Z cameras but I sold them all when I went digital... I wish I still had some of them."
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ruben
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I have catched this thread just now and I feel quite sorry. Not for comrade Rick turning digital, but for loosing what seems to be a fine fellow to have among us.
I am sure many others here feel like me and I ask myself if we can't do better by restraining ourselves a bit in whatever is concerned regarding the digital world. After all we all belong to the same family and the analogs have nothing to gain from isolating ourselves.
I am sure comrade Rick is saying farewell out of his hard feelings concerning leaving the analog side, where we are a strong reminder of its pleasures. Nevertheless digital has its pleasures too, which I would like to be updated about here, not in other forums.
This is not going to be the last migration, but if it turns to be the last member one outdoors, we then could feel quite confident about our forum status.
Cheers,
Ruben
I am sure many others here feel like me and I ask myself if we can't do better by restraining ourselves a bit in whatever is concerned regarding the digital world. After all we all belong to the same family and the analogs have nothing to gain from isolating ourselves.
I am sure comrade Rick is saying farewell out of his hard feelings concerning leaving the analog side, where we are a strong reminder of its pleasures. Nevertheless digital has its pleasures too, which I would like to be updated about here, not in other forums.
This is not going to be the last migration, but if it turns to be the last member one outdoors, we then could feel quite confident about our forum status.
Cheers,
Ruben
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Socke
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Rick, you'll be back 🙂
And if you don't intend to shoot sports 100% of the time, might I sugest keeping a rangefinder and buying a cheaper and lighter D70 to compliment your D2H?
And if you don't intend to shoot sports 100% of the time, might I sugest keeping a rangefinder and buying a cheaper and lighter D70 to compliment your D2H?
Andy K
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I don't see the point in having two identical digital bodies? The reason film users have two or more bodies is so they can carry them loaded with different film stocks. This is not an issue with digital cameras.
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RML
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Ruben, as a confirmed and convinced digitalist, I couldn't agree more. I too often get very veeeeery tired of all the scathing anti-digital remarks I have to endure reading. I know they're not against me personally but I feel hurt by them. I also know that many here shoot both film and digital, which is a reason why I wonder why we still put up with those anti-digital remarks. I for one deal with them in a simple fashion: I put repeat offenders on my ignore list, and I don't care who they are (newby or oldtimer). I, too, don't like to see others leave (for whatever reasons), especially when I realise that we're all here for the fun, right?
sf
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RML said:
Digital has its merits. I like to put up an anti-digital facade for very personal reasons of passion only. Digital makes all the sense from a logical standpoint for heavy users. If I had infinite money, I would almost certainly be 100% digital. I'd own an Alpa (a nice 6x9 model) and a VERY big digital back. But, I don't, and for that kind of image quality, and to enjoy the mechanical workmanship and the glass. . .I have to stick to film.
RML, you're a brave person to stick to it here. Takes guts to be a digital purist in such a film-loving environment.
As for those who leave us in pursuit of digital. . . why leave? It's not like you're banned for setting your film equipment down. Now, you just have to stay around and tell us about the other side. We might be stubborn, we might pretend to be totally uninterested, but we're all really at least a little curious about the next evolutionary step in digital imaging technology.
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RML
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Shutterflower, there's a fine line between being brave and being stupid. I guess I often don't know which I'm heading. Stupidity, most likely though. Simply too dumb to quit and leave, and loving you guys and gals. 😀
Creagerj
Incidental Artist
really, I actually changed my mind about getting a dslr just because I like rangefinder shooting so much. Not that I can affor a DSLR yet, but someday.
Toby
On the alert
I started 'investing' digital gear at the beginning of the year. I like it but it's not really a replacement for film it's has it's own idiom and process. I need to get past the stage of spending hours on photoshop trying to make everything look like it was shot on film. But its a new chapter in my creative life and that's exciting and I hope it's exciting for you too
RObert Budding
D'oh!
I'm not sure why so many people feel thay need to shoot either film or digital. I shoot both. DSLR's are great for shooting sports and fast-paced events. Digital just can't replace standing in the dark and rolling film onto a spool. Nor can digital provide the anticipation that I feel when I unroll freshly developed film and get the first glimpse of my photos. Or the hours spent under the glow of safe lights listing to music and printing.
Enjoy your DSLR. But keep at least one film camera . . .
Enjoy your DSLR. But keep at least one film camera . . .
Rick Waldroup
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Sorry I was not able to reply until now. Right after I posted this thread, my two small grandchildren came over and I became "Papa" for the rest of the evening. I want to say thank you to everyone who responded with such nice sentiments. To George, whose idea of sending some of the stuff to a relative to hold until I come to my senses- well George, believe it or not, I actually thought about that. But I decided that if I am going to do this- then it is full speed ahead!
To those of you who suggested that I keep at least one film camera, that too crossed my mind. In fact, my wife suggested the same thing- but once again I rejected that idea and thought to myself to make a clean break with film and head into this digital world with both feet forward.
In another life, I was a photojournalist for a few years from the mid 1970's to the very early 1980's. I worked for two different newspapers- one in Dallas and one in Miami. Back in those days, you did not make much money working for newspapers. Then I got married and a friend of mine got me into architectural photography and within a year I was making three times as much money as I ever did working for the papers. So for the next 25 years I made a living doing architectural photography.
In all these years, I always had a few rangefinder cameras for my own personal use. Then about a year ago- I suddenly decided that once again, I needed a change in my life. My kids were grown and gone, the pressure of raising a family was gone, and I was bored to tears with making a living as an architectural photographer. Also, right about this time my eyesight was starting to get worse and worse so that it was more difficult to focus my rangefinders like I used to. I knew that eventually I would probably have to go autofocus. And then, out of the blue, I decided to give photojournalism another whirl and a friend of mine told me that film was dead and I had to go digital if I was serious about this. He loaned me a D2H for a couple of days- and it was love at first sight. The camera reminded me of the Nikon F's and F2's I shot so many years ago- built like a tank, fast, I mean the camera fit me like a glove.
So, for the past 9 months or so, I've shot a few small assignments for my local paper- I live in a town of less than 10,000 about 50 miles outside of Dallas. I've done a few things here and there- and then I covered a few of the anti-war protests, shot the immigration march in Ft. Worth and decided to send some CDs out with some of my older work as well as the new stuff to dozens of news agencies in New York and Los Angeles and I actually got some interest from a couple of them.
So now, things have come full circle- or as my wife says, it is nothing more than a full blown mid-life crisis! As to why I want another D2H- well, I hate to change lenses. And if I am shooting an event, I want to shoot two cameras that are identical. In the last 9 months, learning to shoot a DSLR has not been a problem. The problem is learning the digital darkroom. That is where my biggest learning curve is. But the more I learn, the more I like- and one day, just a couple of weeks ago, I thought to myself- man if you are going to do it and go all the way with this- then get off the pot and do it. So here I am. I'll stop in every now and then and say hello. I've met some wonderful and helpful people on this forum. Thanks to everyone.
To those of you who suggested that I keep at least one film camera, that too crossed my mind. In fact, my wife suggested the same thing- but once again I rejected that idea and thought to myself to make a clean break with film and head into this digital world with both feet forward.
In another life, I was a photojournalist for a few years from the mid 1970's to the very early 1980's. I worked for two different newspapers- one in Dallas and one in Miami. Back in those days, you did not make much money working for newspapers. Then I got married and a friend of mine got me into architectural photography and within a year I was making three times as much money as I ever did working for the papers. So for the next 25 years I made a living doing architectural photography.
In all these years, I always had a few rangefinder cameras for my own personal use. Then about a year ago- I suddenly decided that once again, I needed a change in my life. My kids were grown and gone, the pressure of raising a family was gone, and I was bored to tears with making a living as an architectural photographer. Also, right about this time my eyesight was starting to get worse and worse so that it was more difficult to focus my rangefinders like I used to. I knew that eventually I would probably have to go autofocus. And then, out of the blue, I decided to give photojournalism another whirl and a friend of mine told me that film was dead and I had to go digital if I was serious about this. He loaned me a D2H for a couple of days- and it was love at first sight. The camera reminded me of the Nikon F's and F2's I shot so many years ago- built like a tank, fast, I mean the camera fit me like a glove.
So, for the past 9 months or so, I've shot a few small assignments for my local paper- I live in a town of less than 10,000 about 50 miles outside of Dallas. I've done a few things here and there- and then I covered a few of the anti-war protests, shot the immigration march in Ft. Worth and decided to send some CDs out with some of my older work as well as the new stuff to dozens of news agencies in New York and Los Angeles and I actually got some interest from a couple of them.
So now, things have come full circle- or as my wife says, it is nothing more than a full blown mid-life crisis! As to why I want another D2H- well, I hate to change lenses. And if I am shooting an event, I want to shoot two cameras that are identical. In the last 9 months, learning to shoot a DSLR has not been a problem. The problem is learning the digital darkroom. That is where my biggest learning curve is. But the more I learn, the more I like- and one day, just a couple of weeks ago, I thought to myself- man if you are going to do it and go all the way with this- then get off the pot and do it. So here I am. I'll stop in every now and then and say hello. I've met some wonderful and helpful people on this forum. Thanks to everyone.
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Simon Larbalestier
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Rick
I wish you good luck and admire your honesty in expressing your reason to change from film to digital. Not an easy one especially when you have to sell it off on Ebay. At the end of the day it's what works for the photographer and how he or she expresses their vision which counts and having specific equipment be it film or digital can certainly help develop this vision - if the person feels comfortable with this choice.
I always seem to find myself at odds with technologcal developments within the photography world and the business of making a living out of it. I recently traded some equipment to streamline my equipment - now 3 x Leica M's, 4 lenses and 2 x 120 rangefinders - everything else has gone. Working in B/W seems crazy in the business sense when so many others are using colour and digital but i'm slow and like my long term projects allowing me to get close with my subjects and develop a mutual trust.
In saying all this Rick i'm recognising your need to simplify and follow a new route
just because you swapped your equipment over doesn't stop you from contributing on this forum it's the way one thinks and communicates that counts in my book not what equipment ones uses. We all like different things, we all see differently, so please stay and share your thoughts as you learn new things with you digital cameras. I will certainly read your posts despite my fixation with old technology.
Good Luck
I wish you good luck and admire your honesty in expressing your reason to change from film to digital. Not an easy one especially when you have to sell it off on Ebay. At the end of the day it's what works for the photographer and how he or she expresses their vision which counts and having specific equipment be it film or digital can certainly help develop this vision - if the person feels comfortable with this choice.
I always seem to find myself at odds with technologcal developments within the photography world and the business of making a living out of it. I recently traded some equipment to streamline my equipment - now 3 x Leica M's, 4 lenses and 2 x 120 rangefinders - everything else has gone. Working in B/W seems crazy in the business sense when so many others are using colour and digital but i'm slow and like my long term projects allowing me to get close with my subjects and develop a mutual trust.
In saying all this Rick i'm recognising your need to simplify and follow a new route
just because you swapped your equipment over doesn't stop you from contributing on this forum it's the way one thinks and communicates that counts in my book not what equipment ones uses. We all like different things, we all see differently, so please stay and share your thoughts as you learn new things with you digital cameras. I will certainly read your posts despite my fixation with old technology.
Good Luck
peter_n
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Rick, the very best of luck to you! Please drop by to say hello every now and then, you never know...
Bill, thanks for posting that terrific link to Juan Buhler's work. Wonderful stuff!
Bill, thanks for posting that terrific link to Juan Buhler's work. Wonderful stuff!
gustav[] pEña
gustav[] pEña
I dumped my DSLRs. No way Im going back. When (rarely) I need digital I use my DIGILUZ 2. What I really use is a M4-P, canonet gIII and a Rollei 35 se.
What else do I need in life? well, maybe a m4, m2 and a M3.
:angel:
gustav[]
What else do I need in life? well, maybe a m4, m2 and a M3.
:angel:
gustav[]
Rick Waldroup
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Gustav, I swear that, if in about a year from now, I feel like you and decide to return to film, I'm going to find the nearest bridge and jump off it. Heck, I won't have to worry about that, my wife will kill me! No, I feel that I've made the plunge and this is the Last Hurrah for me as far as photography goes.gustav[] pEña said:
ywenz
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Rick, go whatever works for you at the moment. You can always pick up a film body later. Those things are only gonna get cheaper in the future.
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