I know you all love a bit of bokeh

raid amin said:
35mm/1.4 Leitz lens

CORRECT! 35mm Summilux Pre-asph. I'm glad this provided some entertainment.

Good detective work Jungle Jim.
And good knowledge Raid.
And sorry to tease, Joe! I did mean to post earlier with the answer!
 
I once posted a comment on PN in response to a posting of a photo taken with this lens, and I mentioned that I did not like the doughnut bokeh. Severel PN users of such a lens came back and told me that "it is nice bokeh", whether I liked it or not. I guess, once you spend a large sum of money on an exotic lens, you defend it to the death. That's why I knew which lens it was (most likely). No offence ....
 
Don't get mad at me, Robin. I really don't me to be offensive in any way. Maybe I am unable to see the nice bokeh.
 
raid amin said:
Don't get mad at me, Robin. I really don't me to be offensive in any way. Maybe I am unable to see the nice bokeh.

Absolutely no offense taken! Because:

a) I didn't pay a fortune for this lens
b) even if this lens's bokeh was the worst in the world, its strengths are speed and size
c) I think we all know what a personal and subjective thing bokeh appreciation is
d) I can easily see how some of the specular highlight rendition of this lens could be seen as unattractive
e) dude....it's the internet

Haven't yet made my mind up completely with this lens, but for now I'm just playing! Out of interest, could you post an example of your 'good bokeh'?
 
Robin Harrison said:
Absolutely no offense taken! Because:

a) I didn't pay a fortune for this lens
b) even if this lens's bokeh was the worst in the world, its strengths are speed and size
c) I think we all know what a personal and subjective thing bokeh appreciation is
d) I can easily see how some of the specular highlight rendition of this lens could be seen as unattractive
e) dude....it's the internet

Haven't yet made my mind up completely with this lens, but for now I'm just playing! Out of interest, could you post an example of your 'good bokeh'?

Robin: You are assuming that I have a lens with good bokeh. I agree with you on parts (c), (d) and (e) above, and of course (b), since I wish I had such a lens.
 
raid amin said:
Robin: You are assuming that I have a lens with good bokeh. I agree with you on parts (c), (d) and (e) above, and of course (b), since I wish I had such a lens.

🙂
I don't assume anything about what you may posess. Since you know your mind when it comes to bokeh (a sure sign of a seasoned optic user), I thought you may be able to point me to an example (taken by you or not) of bokeh you find attractive. I thought it might be interesting to compare the two.
 
I think this lens has very pleasant Bokeh IMHO. It also gives the pic a certain 3-D quality that is seems to be only made by a few lenses, one example that comes to mind are the fine photos Todd Hanz makes with his Summitar. One can really luck out if a lens like that comes their way. Your 35mm Summilux produces a very pleasing image Robin, from that example anyway. I would hold on to that perticular lens,and use it to make some fine images with, it looks to be a"sweet" lens.
 
Robin: I really don't even define Bokeh, and I would not be an expert on this field. However, maybe someone like Brian Sweeney who owns many lenses can provide us with more insight. I have read here in this forum that the Nikon 50/2 has a better looking bokeh than the Nikon 50/1.4 lens. It seems that speed has a cost. I will try to post a photo that I think (for my personal taste) has nice bokeh, but it is not something I would defend to the death.
 
I think it is the in-focus/out-of-focus transitions from near to far that generate the 3D look some people talk about. While the two photos Raid links to show a very smooth and velvety ('nice' bokeh) appearence, there is no transition from in-focus to out-of-focus. I do like that first shot, though!
 
My guess is a J-12.

Then, after reading the thread I would be wrong. I got some good pictures from the re-set J-12 before trading it off.
 
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Robin Harrison said:
I think it is the in-focus/out-of-focus transitions from near to far that generate the 3D look some people talk about. While the two photos Raid links to show a very smooth and velvety ('nice' bokeh) appearence, there is no transition from in-focus to out-of-focus. I do like that first shot, though!

Robin: I was not trying to even bring up the "glow" that people aim at. I'm glad you like the first shot.
 
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