Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I could get generic M adapter for this price on e-bay.
I'm reading about M lenses on X series and it is missleading.
Some are saying corners are soft, some are showing examples with fine corners.
f16sunshine
Moderator
You have to try for yourself.
Some M lenses are better or worse than others.
None I have ever tried seem to be problematic beyond the far.. far corners where It does not matter.
Which M's do you own?
harpofreely
Well-known
This is my experience as well. Also, I have the most fun using things like my hazy, scratched up old Summar.
You can pretty much go crazy with $12 to $20 adapters and shoot any old glass you have. Takumars are nice, I have an old Mamyia 60mm f2.8 macro that becomes a great portrait lens, etc. etc.
It is absolutely my experience that _no_ legacy glass, of however prestigious a reputation, can compete with the native Fuji lenses. But, I think if you are seeking technical perfection, you'd stick with the 5D and L glass, yes?
Whereas, if you are looking for some inspiration, rekindle enjoyment of experimentation, which is sounds like your OP is about, playing with old glass on the X-E1 might really do the trick. I know its not a new idea, but with the current prices of the X-E's and the less aggressive crop factor compared to micro 4/3rds, I think its an idea with a second wind.
Hsg
who dares wins
I sold my DSLR and I regret it.
So, don't sell the 5D until you're very sure.
So, don't sell the 5D until you're very sure.
f16sunshine
Moderator
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
CV CS 25 and 35, Elmar-M 50.
I stepped out for appointment and on my way back went to camera store to get old cheap FB paper they also showed me X-T10.
I have no big problems with EVF on this one, reminds me EVF on our old Fuji P&S.
The size of X-T10 is perfect to go out, but I don't like SLRish design, because I don't like film SLRs at all
X-E series, which I haven't checked on yet seems to be something I really like. Flat top as on film RFs and EVF is also at the corner.
f16sunshine
Moderator
All of your M lenses will be good. The 35 and 50 will be great. The f4/25 may be the weekest yet still quite good from my trials with it.
XE1's are super cheap. Just try one.
XE1's are super cheap. Just try one.
Ronald M
Veteran
M8 is neither small or light.
APS C or H is fine for family snaps. Suggest a D3300 Nikon.
Not the best construction or feature set, but pics are great.
Cannon probably has an entry level DSLR also.
APS C or H is fine for family snaps. Suggest a D3300 Nikon.
Not the best construction or feature set, but pics are great.
Cannon probably has an entry level DSLR also.
ecowarrior
Established
Another +1 for the Fuji X-E2.
LOVE mine to bits. Had an XPro1 too but sold it as it never got used - and the EV comp dial was driving me mad - too loose, got knocked easily and changed without me noticing.
The X-E2 has a little built in flash - always useful, the Nissin i40 flash is decent small "proper" flash for those times when you want to be creative.
Lens wise I have all primes - the 14, 23, 35 and 56. ALL are excellent, but I would say the 35 is my usual go-to. Small, fast, sharp as hell.
I'm pretty comfortable with the setup of it now - like any camera, the more you use it the more you find how it will best work for you.
LOVE mine to bits. Had an XPro1 too but sold it as it never got used - and the EV comp dial was driving me mad - too loose, got knocked easily and changed without me noticing.
The X-E2 has a little built in flash - always useful, the Nissin i40 flash is decent small "proper" flash for those times when you want to be creative.
Lens wise I have all primes - the 14, 23, 35 and 56. ALL are excellent, but I would say the 35 is my usual go-to. Small, fast, sharp as hell.
I'm pretty comfortable with the setup of it now - like any camera, the more you use it the more you find how it will best work for you.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
So, this is "35" digital SLR with 2.8 zoom on it and right beside is "35" film RF with 2.8 prime on it.
The picture above was taken with 2.8 aperture and ISO 6400.
And this is same ISO range but in color from same camera.
The only one I took out for Halloween today and it wasn't too heavy or bulky.
The picture above was taken with 2.8 aperture and ISO 6400.
And this is same ISO range but in color from same camera.
The only one I took out for Halloween today and it wasn't too heavy or bulky.
GaryLH
Veteran
The latest dslr pro-am and pro level cameras will beat any of the mirrorless cameras in terms of af speed..but these new ones are coming close.
If u are planning to mainly us legacy lenses, then a mirrorless camera w/ good focus assist would be a plus.
- The Sony a6000 (apsc) or a7 (ff) families have good focus peaking and mag support.. Right now u can find used price on original A7 for well under $900. A6000 has fastest af speed. New a7mk2 and a7r mk2 have really good af speed and EVF.
- the Fuji xt1 and xt10 have split image plus mag support. Fuji focus peaking is only so-so. The xe2 if I remember correctly has split image as well. Af speed on the xt1 and x10 are the best right now on Fuji. Xt1 has best EVF.
- Fuji xp1 is getting pretty long in the tooth, next gen xp2 should be along by 2016. One rumor say q1 of 2016.
The standalone x100s or t would be another fine camera. I second the Ricoh gr as well. I throw out a couple of odd balls that are my favorites..
- Panasonic LX100
- Sigma Quattro or Merrill family
Gary
If u are planning to mainly us legacy lenses, then a mirrorless camera w/ good focus assist would be a plus.
- The Sony a6000 (apsc) or a7 (ff) families have good focus peaking and mag support.. Right now u can find used price on original A7 for well under $900. A6000 has fastest af speed. New a7mk2 and a7r mk2 have really good af speed and EVF.
- the Fuji xt1 and xt10 have split image plus mag support. Fuji focus peaking is only so-so. The xe2 if I remember correctly has split image as well. Af speed on the xt1 and x10 are the best right now on Fuji. Xt1 has best EVF.
- Fuji xp1 is getting pretty long in the tooth, next gen xp2 should be along by 2016. One rumor say q1 of 2016.
The standalone x100s or t would be another fine camera. I second the Ricoh gr as well. I throw out a couple of odd balls that are my favorites..
- Panasonic LX100
- Sigma Quattro or Merrill family
Gary
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
FujiLove
Well-known
Does it have to be a digital camera? I use a Hexar AF for casual shots - parties, out walking the dog etc. It's got a lovely sharp 35mm lens, and auto everything. The auto focus is fast and accurate even in low light and it starts up very quickly.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
In this thread, yes, it has to be digital.
And as I was trying to mention it yesterday - I do have solution for now. Will post more pictures to make it more obvious later.
UPD. I decided to buy 24 (38) pancake for my 500D and give it another try as not so heavy going out camera for family, friends pictures.
I only have to pay 195 CAD ($160) to get this lens new.
Another test shot, from today.
Focused at the gull.
And as I was trying to mention it yesterday - I do have solution for now. Will post more pictures to make it more obvious later.
UPD. I decided to buy 24 (38) pancake for my 500D and give it another try as not so heavy going out camera for family, friends pictures.
I only have to pay 195 CAD ($160) to get this lens new.
Another test shot, from today.
Focused at the gull.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
UPD:
I relocated camera bag to central room in our house. It has three digital cameras for quick grab.
Canon 500D with little lens as shown above, little old Lumix P&S with Leica zoom lens and for few weeks as of now Canon 5D was replaced with 5DMKII (with zoom or large fast prime on it).
If something happening at home I'll grab 500D. If we go out for visit, hiking, party it is same camera, lens. If I go for a short walk with our daughters it is small P&S.
5DMKII just sits in the bag. I took it outside only twice, yes, images are super, but camera feels large and odd now.
I also realised what nobody see what I see. Where is difference in IQ between old P&S, consumer DSLR and advanced FF DSLR, plus lenses. But nobody seems to care about IQ difference. Not even me
500D consumer DSLR:
Little old P&S:
Canon 5DMKII:
I relocated camera bag to central room in our house. It has three digital cameras for quick grab.
Canon 500D with little lens as shown above, little old Lumix P&S with Leica zoom lens and for few weeks as of now Canon 5D was replaced with 5DMKII (with zoom or large fast prime on it).
If something happening at home I'll grab 500D. If we go out for visit, hiking, party it is same camera, lens. If I go for a short walk with our daughters it is small P&S.
5DMKII just sits in the bag. I took it outside only twice, yes, images are super, but camera feels large and odd now.
I also realised what nobody see what I see. Where is difference in IQ between old P&S, consumer DSLR and advanced FF DSLR, plus lenses. But nobody seems to care about IQ difference. Not even me
500D consumer DSLR:
Little old P&S:
Canon 5DMKII:
Scapevision
Well-known
You should really try Medium Format film, it will completely change your views.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I have tried. BW and color. 6x9, 6x6 and 6x4.5. Not worth of the effort for photography needs I cover with digital cameras.
Now after I stopped to be passionate about very fine or even more noticeable differences in image quality, I'm thinking of selling, saving for M8 as one more digital camera
To be able to use my RF lenses for pictures where digital is fine and convenient and enjoy RF camera.
B-9
Devin Bro
Oh no, Im thinking of putting my M8 back up in the classifieds for the opposite reasons of this thread.
New found love for an old beat up Nikon D3, has me seeing through the lens.
Lost my appetite for the M8 after getting a Nikon SP, it has a much superior viewfinder to any Leica ive owned and used, but hey they are two different apples all together.
New found love for an old beat up Nikon D3, has me seeing through the lens.
Lost my appetite for the M8 after getting a Nikon SP, it has a much superior viewfinder to any Leica ive owned and used, but hey they are two different apples all together.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I don't have plans for selling any of two DSLRs. Only adding of M8 by selling some film gear I don't need and adding to money I have after selling of Canon 5D. It will take some time.
500D cost nothing by now and next to mint 5DMII was under $700 to get few weeks ago.
500D cost nothing by now and next to mint 5DMII was under $700 to get few weeks ago.
Spanik
Well-known
That EF-S 24 is a little bit of fun. Got one for the 300D and for a walkaround camera in good light (the 300D isn't up to much iso) this is great. Got rid of the X-Pro1 after getting that lens.
I agree that MF film can be a hassle at times and after a scan there isn't much left of the quality it offers. But for having a good time it sure beats digital.
I agree that MF film can be a hassle at times and after a scan there isn't much left of the quality it offers. But for having a good time it sure beats digital.