Vics
Veteran
I just grabbed a bunch from Freestyle! I felt it was my responsibility to the family budget.
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Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I think Freestyle do pretty well out of RFF in regards film! 
I sometimes wonder if anyone there browses this place occasionaly?
I sometimes wonder if anyone there browses this place occasionaly?
saxshooter
Well-known
I think Ilford is getting rid of the 2 roll packs. Maybe it was a marketing experiment (selling HP5+ in double packs) that didn't work. I ordered from Freestyle. Adorama is on holiday for a week.
marduk
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Well, my first roll of Fomapan 200 in Rodinal also came out with such defects. I developed the second roll in Diafine and it was nearly perfect! It doesn't seem like you've got any rolls left, but I'd suggest to change developer in such case. Besides Dana Hojná of Foma (dana.hojna [at] foma.cz) was helpful when I emailed her about this problem and asked me to provide a sample of the film of defect, which I never did because the second roll came out fine.On a side note, I finished shooting and developing 10 rolls of Fomapan 200 Creative. This film is being backed by quite a number of RFFers here, and I tried it in Rodinal 1:50, exposed at 100 (including yellow filter). All ten films turned out to have flaws in the emulsion - not the super serious pinhole-pockmarks that would render pictures unusable, but enough to not want to make me try another 10 rolls. I'll stick with Ilford, Kodak...
illuminati_02
Established
I just received my order from Adorama. They are labelled "Limited Edition Twin Pack"
and FREE FILM in big letters on every side. Exp. is Dec. 2014, so it is quite fresh. Good deal.
and FREE FILM in big letters on every side. Exp. is Dec. 2014, so it is quite fresh. Good deal.
Vics
Veteran
I wondered if they realised thatTri-X has been getting lots of space on the web, and this is an effort to get newcomers to give HP5+ a try. They've always had those "student packs" of 8x10 paper with some HP5+ for less than the price of the paper alone. Great deal if you like pearl finish!
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Just got mine too!
via Tapatalk.

via Tapatalk.
Lilserenity
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I don't buy my HP5+ from Harman/Ilford UK directly, either ag-photographic.co.uk or my local shop where it runs about £3.60-£4 a roll of 36exp.
I think I'll email a polite note to Ilford of how in the UK shipping the film to the South Coast (a distance of about 300 miles) makes it double the price than it being shipped and then sold in the USA. I know VAT at 20% is part of this but it still doesn't answer how it can be cheaper for Ilford to sell film abroad than where it is made! Worse still is Ag is about 75 miles from Cheshire...
As I say I really do want to support Ilford and a genuine British manufacturing company but they don't make doing that particularly easy.
Ahh well, it just sticks in the throat.
I guess congestion on the M6 really is bad
Vicky
I think I'll email a polite note to Ilford of how in the UK shipping the film to the South Coast (a distance of about 300 miles) makes it double the price than it being shipped and then sold in the USA. I know VAT at 20% is part of this but it still doesn't answer how it can be cheaper for Ilford to sell film abroad than where it is made! Worse still is Ag is about 75 miles from Cheshire...
As I say I really do want to support Ilford and a genuine British manufacturing company but they don't make doing that particularly easy.
Ahh well, it just sticks in the throat.
I guess congestion on the M6 really is bad
Vicky
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Ljós
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I don't buy my HP5+ from Harman/Ilford UK directly, either ag-photographic.co.uk or my local shop where it runs about £3.60-£4 a roll of 36exp.
I think I'll email a polite note to Ilford of how in the UK shipping the film to the South Coast (a distance of about 300 miles) makes it double the price than it being shipped and then sold in the USA. I know VAT at 20% is part of this but it still doesn't answer how it can be cheaper for Ilford to sell film abroad than where it is made! Worse still is Ag is about 75 miles from Cheshire...
As I say I really do want to support Ilford and a genuine British manufacturing company but they don't make doing that particularly easy.
Ahh well, it just sticks in the throat.
I guess congestion on the M6 really is bad
Vicky
Remembering that Ilford's Simon Galley posts regularly over at APUG I found this http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/88446-uk-ilford-users-5.html#post1151103 statement. He/Ilford really tries to communicate the company's point of view, I think it is very laudable. Still, the price differences can give one pause.
Ljós
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@sepiareverb: thanks for posting the expiration date! So it is very fresh film, good for you guys overseas!
Not to take this too much further OT (from HP5), but briefly: thanks for posting this experience, marduk. I have also heard otherwise that Foma is very forthcoming in handling QC-reclamations - but I decided to just let it go, I "burned" the rolls quite quickly and had some emulsion-unrelated learning experiences with it, so I got my money's worth, so to speak. And I realized that, for an effective speed close to Ilford FP4, I'd rather want a more finegrained film. For "crisp" grain I will pursue with 400 speed film. I could always use TX400 with Rodinal 1:50for that (shot this half a year long some time ago), but first I will try TMY2 with Rodinal and possibly HP5 with Rodinal 1:25.
Now to come back to HP5, a nice touch I find to be the "tick-boxes" on the film canisters, where you can quickly mark 400/800/1600 EI. (Tick two for in-between values if necessary).
Well, my first roll of Fomapan 200 in Rodinal also came out with such defects. I developed the second roll in Diafine and it was nearly perfect! It doesn't seem like you've got any rolls left, but I'd suggest to change developer in such case. Besides Dana Hojná of Foma (dana.hojna [at] foma.cz) was helpful when I emailed her about this problem and asked me to provide a sample of the film of defect, which I never did because the second roll came out fine.
Not to take this too much further OT (from HP5), but briefly: thanks for posting this experience, marduk. I have also heard otherwise that Foma is very forthcoming in handling QC-reclamations - but I decided to just let it go, I "burned" the rolls quite quickly and had some emulsion-unrelated learning experiences with it, so I got my money's worth, so to speak. And I realized that, for an effective speed close to Ilford FP4, I'd rather want a more finegrained film. For "crisp" grain I will pursue with 400 speed film. I could always use TX400 with Rodinal 1:50for that (shot this half a year long some time ago), but first I will try TMY2 with Rodinal and possibly HP5 with Rodinal 1:25.
Now to come back to HP5, a nice touch I find to be the "tick-boxes" on the film canisters, where you can quickly mark 400/800/1600 EI. (Tick two for in-between values if necessary).
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Your welcome. Mine is heading right for the freezer, I've just pulled my second to last ProPack of HP5 out last week.
I do miss the green film can lids of yore, the orange PanF and Blue FP4 ones too.
I do miss the green film can lids of yore, the orange PanF and Blue FP4 ones too.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I don't buy my HP5+ from Harman/Ilford UK directly, either ag-photographic.co.uk or my local shop where it runs about £3.60-£4 a roll of 36exp.
I think I'll email a polite note to Ilford of how in the UK shipping the film to the South Coast (a distance of about 300 miles) makes it double the price than it being shipped and then sold in the USA. I know VAT at 20% is part of this but it still doesn't answer how it can be cheaper for Ilford to sell film abroad than where it is made! Worse still is Ag is about 75 miles from Cheshire...
As I say I really do want to support Ilford and a genuine British manufacturing company but they don't make doing that particularly easy.
Ahh well, it just sticks in the throat.
I guess congestion on the M6 really is bad
Vicky
I think you should definitely make your feelings known to Ilford here Vicky.
It's all very well to have these bargains in far flung regions of the globe but not while local buyers are being asked to pay the equivalent of two to three times the price per roll. It really sucks IMO.
marke
Well-known
20 rolls of HP5 and chemicals arrived today!

Lilserenity
Well-known
I think you should definitely make your feelings known to Ilford here Vicky.
It's all very well to have these bargains in far flung regions of the globe but not while local buyers are being asked to pay the equivalent of two to three times the price per roll. It really sucks IMO.
Thanks Keith, as I say I appreciate Simon pops his head up on APUG (which I visit now and then but I find it all a bit technical there so I don't often post!) which is great but there is some explaining to do, like why can't European users get the free film packs too?
As I say it's good they pop up on APUG but something is amiss here, unless there is some repackaging going on at the distributors end. I could understand this if the stock was short dated, but this is fresh stuff. Gnghh.
Ok, and breathe.
I don't want to stop buying Ilford out of spite, but I just expect a reasonable qualification of their position. Unlike Jessops (UK chain photographic store) who when I eventually relented and complained that their store processing is attrocious just about everywhere I go, they just did the same old customer service run-around "your business means so much to us", "we will tell the area manager" etc. but couldn't answer the simple query, "How will I know things have improved unless I risk another film in your pants processing?" (Ok I didn't say pants.)
No answer.
Anyway, that came out more like a rant didn't it?
Vicky
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
marke: nice photo... i think you'd run out of microphen developer before you run out of film 
MISH
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If Ilford was doing this as a clever gambit to get people to try their film it worked for me. After shooting Tri-X almost exclusively for 20+ years I ordered 30 rolls. And I agree they should be doing something for their UK customers
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