I'm thisclose to replacing all my M gear with an X-Pro2
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Arbitrarium
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Go for it. By the list in your sig, you'll be rolling around on a bed of cash, laughing manically.
willie_901
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Ken,
The X-Pro 2 is an excellent camera. In my view the improvements over the X-Pro 1 are well worth the price difference.
I sold all my Nikon FX gear after using the X-T1 for a few months. I miss nothing about it.
To be complete I'm not an action photographer. The AF performance differences between the newest FUJIFILM bodies and Nikon's are less significant than before. But for action photography Nikon and Canon are still best.
I very much enjoy the results from my Fujinon lenses. I use mostly primes. But the 10-24/4 Fujinon is excellent (especially from 10 to ~ 2 mm).
I think it would be wise to keep the X-Pro 1 as a second body. It's sale won't generate that much money.
The X-Pro 2 is an excellent camera. In my view the improvements over the X-Pro 1 are well worth the price difference.
I sold all my Nikon FX gear after using the X-T1 for a few months. I miss nothing about it.
To be complete I'm not an action photographer. The AF performance differences between the newest FUJIFILM bodies and Nikon's are less significant than before. But for action photography Nikon and Canon are still best.
I very much enjoy the results from my Fujinon lenses. I use mostly primes. But the 10-24/4 Fujinon is excellent (especially from 10 to ~ 2 mm).
I think it would be wise to keep the X-Pro 1 as a second body. It's sale won't generate that much money.
Out to Lunch
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Apples and pears.
Ken Ford
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Thanks for all the comments, gang. I think I'm going to proceed, but carefully:
1. Order in an XP2 now while the $300 rebate is on with a 23 and 50 and see how I get on with them with a 14 or so day deadline for making a decision so I'm within B&H's return window. (I'm not one to buy and return. I can think of only one photographic item I've returned in 10+ years that wasn't defective.)
2. At the same time start listing my excess gear that I've been meaning to sell anyways. Extra M and LTM lenses, RapidWinder, Motor M, NEX gear, Nikon 1 kit - I have a lot of clutter that isn't getting used.
3. Assuming 1. works out (and I have every reason to think it will), get the M-P 240 listed for sale.
4. Keep the M6, Leicavit, 35/2 ASPH and the 75/2 ASPH for now. Possibly the 21, too. See how I get on with going back to film only on M. If that doesn't work out or doesn't get used, divest the 21 and 75. I'll keep the XP1 too.
I do have an attachment to my M6 and 35/2, but I don't want to keep much more than that if it doesn't get used. I was considering selling the M-P 240 for an M10 to see if that made a difference, but that would be a *very* expensive experiment. I think the XP2 makes more sense.
1. Order in an XP2 now while the $300 rebate is on with a 23 and 50 and see how I get on with them with a 14 or so day deadline for making a decision so I'm within B&H's return window. (I'm not one to buy and return. I can think of only one photographic item I've returned in 10+ years that wasn't defective.)
2. At the same time start listing my excess gear that I've been meaning to sell anyways. Extra M and LTM lenses, RapidWinder, Motor M, NEX gear, Nikon 1 kit - I have a lot of clutter that isn't getting used.
3. Assuming 1. works out (and I have every reason to think it will), get the M-P 240 listed for sale.
4. Keep the M6, Leicavit, 35/2 ASPH and the 75/2 ASPH for now. Possibly the 21, too. See how I get on with going back to film only on M. If that doesn't work out or doesn't get used, divest the 21 and 75. I'll keep the XP1 too.
I do have an attachment to my M6 and 35/2, but I don't want to keep much more than that if it doesn't get used. I was considering selling the M-P 240 for an M10 to see if that made a difference, but that would be a *very* expensive experiment. I think the XP2 makes more sense.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Eh? A little too cryptic...
leicapixie
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Each reply will be according our own needs and uses.
My take is always why?
I use almost daily a Leica M3 and film, as I have done for 50 years..
I have my Nikons from pro days, to remind me of their weight and bulk.
I remember many cameras being "touted as Good a or better than Leica".
All history now and not worthy of names.
Either one bonds with a Leica M or one doesn't.
I am amazed how many other cameras have been donated to me, due to Film usage.
Digital is dangerous waters for one who has no desire for the latest.
If you feel you want to sell, sell!
Me, I would keep the M6 and a lens..😀
My take is always why?
I use almost daily a Leica M3 and film, as I have done for 50 years..
I have my Nikons from pro days, to remind me of their weight and bulk.
I remember many cameras being "touted as Good a or better than Leica".
All history now and not worthy of names.
Either one bonds with a Leica M or one doesn't.
I am amazed how many other cameras have been donated to me, due to Film usage.
Digital is dangerous waters for one who has no desire for the latest.
If you feel you want to sell, sell!
Me, I would keep the M6 and a lens..😀
jarski
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it sounds like there is no acute need for the new system, so I would start just by selling, as its longer process than getting new stuff.
am personally happy I've kept some of my M gear, even when they stood idle sometimes for years. its nice to return to those.
am personally happy I've kept some of my M gear, even when they stood idle sometimes for years. its nice to return to those.
skopar steve
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As someone that still kicks themselves on a frequent basis, DON"T SELL YOUR M6 AND LEICA GLASS! You will regret it.
jsrockit
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I sold my M6 and 35mm and 50mm summicrons and never regretted it. You can just buy them again, so I never understood this regret. I will admit to regretting the decision to sell my Nikon Df surprisingly. It's not easily replaceable here in Chile.
Dogman
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I sold my Leica M6 and all my Leica glass several years ago. I regretted it for years. Until about 18 months ago when I bought a Fuji X-Pro1. And then I bought....
I loved using my Leicas when I had them. But, honestly, my eyes have aged faster than the rest of me (well, maybe the joints are a few paces ahead of the eyes). Autofocus is a godsend for me, even with the older XP1. Today, even if I could afford the purchase of a couple of M10's and a sack full of Leica lenses, I wouldn't consider it. Today, no regrets at all.
I loved using my Leicas when I had them. But, honestly, my eyes have aged faster than the rest of me (well, maybe the joints are a few paces ahead of the eyes). Autofocus is a godsend for me, even with the older XP1. Today, even if I could afford the purchase of a couple of M10's and a sack full of Leica lenses, I wouldn't consider it. Today, no regrets at all.
f16sunshine
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Many have made a switch to some other system. It's fine. You'll be happy to even try it.
I've kept my favorite 50mm and a film M. All else is now Fuji for digital.
The Fuji system has faults but the glass is fantastic and affordable.
The faults are similar to Leicas faults. A bit slow compared to Canikon.
The in camera jpeg engine is sweet. Wififi works great.
Honestly I rarely shoot the film M as conpared to my Fuji usage. (Maybe 2rolls per month)
When I do use the M, it's all there. The rf experience is intact and the joy is the same.
I don't miss slinging the underperforming overpriced digital M.
I think your 14day trial is smart. Go for it. Nothing to loose there.
I've kept my favorite 50mm and a film M. All else is now Fuji for digital.
The Fuji system has faults but the glass is fantastic and affordable.
The faults are similar to Leicas faults. A bit slow compared to Canikon.
The in camera jpeg engine is sweet. Wififi works great.
Honestly I rarely shoot the film M as conpared to my Fuji usage. (Maybe 2rolls per month)
When I do use the M, it's all there. The rf experience is intact and the joy is the same.
I don't miss slinging the underperforming overpriced digital M.
I think your 14day trial is smart. Go for it. Nothing to loose there.
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
I spent about ten minutes with an XP2 last night at a local store. I think this will work, but I need to research how I can configure the autofocus.
Ideally I'd like it to be like my Nikons where it only focuses when I hit a back button, and stops focusing when I release it. I think this is possible, but I want to find out what button is used for this since the AE/AF button on my XP1 is spectacularly mislocated for this purpose. Time to hit the web and research this.
Apparently I have a few weeks to decide, the current promotion runs until July 22nd.
Ideally I'd like it to be like my Nikons where it only focuses when I hit a back button, and stops focusing when I release it. I think this is possible, but I want to find out what button is used for this since the AE/AF button on my XP1 is spectacularly mislocated for this purpose. Time to hit the web and research this.
Apparently I have a few weeks to decide, the current promotion runs until July 22nd.
35photo
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A word of advice... Its not the gear that's contributing to your "photographic funk" You have to ask this question to yourself, What do I want to do with photography? What is my purpose for taking photographs? You need inspiration, I suggest go to the library and go look up some photographers that interest you...and look at the work... I guarantee you buying an X-Pro 2 will not solve your problem at all... it might make it worse...
skopar steve
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It is not easy for me to replace what I sold 15 years ago at today's prices. If all I shot was film then I might. But film is about 20% of my photography. Not worth the $4000.-$5000. replacement cost.
Wish I had shelved it for five years before making the decision.
On another note, I currently use an XE-1 with 18mm, 35mm, 50mm f2.0 lenses. Fondled the Xpro2 when purchasing the 50mm 2.0 WR and was impressed. Should have the funds by August.
shawn
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You can set it up this way by putting the camera in MF mode and using the "Instant AF" feature which acts like the AF On on a Nikon. Button placement is better than the XP1 but not as good as the Nikon.
I shot all my Nikons from the F5 and on with AF-On but with the XP2 I don't bother. The XP2 is also very different from the XP1 in that it has PD AF. If your subject hasn't moved when you press the shutter it won't always refocus like the XP1 with its CD AF system.
Shawn
jsrockit
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Good point.
cz23
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Well said. It's true that new gear can sometimes provide a creative lift, but it's not likely to sustain that inspiration for long. As you say, purpose and meaning are the real drivers of creativity. Without them we drift. (This wisdom coming from one who just swapped his MM1 for an M6.🙂)
John
Ken Ford
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That's very true, but I have to say having so much unused gear in the house isn't helping. I do still shoot regularly, but it's mostly SLRs since just I haven't been getting as much enjoyment out of the Leicas as I used to. A lot of it is because I'm just not as comfortable with a manual focus rangefinder as I used to be due to vision changes. I hate to admit I have learned to rely on AF.
Plus, divesting myself of the $$$ gear is appealing.
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