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JoeV
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coelacanth said:It doesn't really have to be with a Hassy.
Lumix G1, 20mm-f/1.7 lens, cropped to square and B/W conversion in SilkyPix.
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blw
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Ha sepiareverb....who knew wafer board could also be used for stair stringers.
Damn...and I had a photo for this thread but have no idea where it is on my home computer.
Damn...and I had a photo for this thread but have no idea where it is on my home computer.
Leica All Day
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India........Hasselblad 80mm and tri-x
cheers, michael

cheers, michael
Ezzie
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Grasse, France, Kodak Ektar 100 IIRC
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mfogiel
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Hasselblad 503 CW, Planar 100/3.5 CF, Across, Prescysol EF
The SWC shot of fireworks in Monaco, was made on Tri X in Prescysol EF.
As to the scanners, Sanders is so positive about flatbeds, because he prints in the darkroom, and he has not tried a decent dedicated MF film scanner like Nikon CS9000 or an Imacon, that do not exaggerate grain. If you actually use a hybrid workflow and print digitally, the flatbeds are reducing the MF quality by one format, so to get a MF quality you would have to shoot 4x5.
jmooney
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Hasselblad 503 CW, Planar 100/3.5 CF, Across, Prescysol EF
The SWC shot of fireworks in Monaco, was made on Tri X in Prescysol EF.
As to the scanners, Sanders is so positive about flatbeds, because he prints in the darkroom, and he has not tried a decent dedicated MF film scanner like Nikon CS9000 or an Imacon, that do not exaggerate grain. If you actually use a hybrid workflow and print digitally, the flatbeds are reducing the MF quality by one format, so to get a MF quality you would have to shoot 4x5.
I am awed by this. It's a great image on it's own but the sharpness and tone is breathtaking.
Not to hijack but is there an MF film scanner that doesn't cost thousands? I would love to have one but I can justify the cost of a 9000 at this point.
lawrence
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Not to hijack but is there an MF film scanner that doesn't cost thousands? I would love to have one but I can justify the cost of a 9000 at this point.
Try the Epson V750. And by the way, any blanket statement such as "all flatbeds reduce quality by 'x' amount" should be regarded with suspicion -- not all flatbeds are equal.
mfogiel
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This flatbed story seems to be an obsession. I have both the V750 and the Nikon CS9000. The strong point of V750 is, that it does not resolve enough to see the grain, therefore in B&W the results are actually quite pleasing, provided you do not enlarge more than 6 times. However, even with the Doug's holders with glass, you can never get the film perfectly flat. In colour, the results are much worse due to smaller Dmax and not ideal colour reproduction. To sum up, a good MF camera with a first rate lens and a V750 scan as the ONLY output do not make any sense - at 8x10 print size you would get the same quality from a 135 film and a good film scanner, with much less hassle and cost.
- Yes, there are good flatbed scaners, but they cost much more than a Nikon CS 9000 or an Imacon.
- For who cannot afford a Nikon CS 9000, I suggest to sell MF gear and concentrate on improving 135 format quality - it can be very satisfying, or to use a cheap flatbed for proofing, and scan a few best frames a year in a pro lab.
- Yes, there are good flatbed scaners, but they cost much more than a Nikon CS 9000 or an Imacon.
- For who cannot afford a Nikon CS 9000, I suggest to sell MF gear and concentrate on improving 135 format quality - it can be very satisfying, or to use a cheap flatbed for proofing, and scan a few best frames a year in a pro lab.
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lawrence
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This flatbed story seems to be an obsession.
An obsession for who?
I have both the V750 and the Nikon CS9000. The strong point of V750 is, that it does not resolve enough to see the grain, therefore in B&W the results are actually quite pleasing, provided you do not enlarge more than 6 times.
I have produced A0 prints from Epson scans which I liked very much and I regularly produce A3 prints that, to my eyes, have excellent quality.
For who cannot afford a Nikon CS 9000, I suggest to sell MF gear and concentrate on improving 135 format quality - it can be very satisfying, or to use a cheap flatbed for proofing, and scan a few best frames a year in a pro lab.
It's very convenient to be able to scan your own negatives to better than proof quality with a decent quality flatbed such as the V750. It can also be a pleasure to use medium format for reasons other than quality (different aspect ratio etc.). Not everyone needs ultimate sharpness the whole time -- I frequently prefer a softer image, which I get using my V750 in place of my Nikon Coolscan.
My advice to anyone would be to try out a particular scanner and see the results before making any decisions. What suits Peter may not suit Paul and vice versa.
lawrence
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Here's an attempt to get this thread back on topic!
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l.mar
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Rolleicord III

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JeffGreene
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mto'brien
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Ezzie
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Flexaret & foma 2oo & D76 & Epson 4990
Nice Thomassen. I used to live a block away from where you took that picture, literally. The were quite a few AmCar meets at Soria Moria, I remember the Mustang crowd most particularly, not everyday you see 15 or so mint condition MKI´s.
How are you liking the Flexaret? Which version is it?
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