Is this M6 Real and/or does it have mix/match parts?

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...20023236613&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEBI:IT&rd=1

I am the current high bidder on this, but all of a sudden I'm looking at it and I see a couple things I wonder about.

1.) The film advance lever (not the thumb bob) looks black.

2.) The preview lever appears to be black

3.) The Leica GMBH Germany is not stacked on the back as in

Leica Camera GMBH

Germany

What are your thoughts? Is there such a thing as counterfiets, or is this thing a mix of parts?
 
Sorry; Just noticed the link in your post. One difference the Panda on Stephen's site has a black shutter speed dial, this one appears to be chrome or silver and is really hard to see.
 
Now that I look again, one of the other shots clearly shows the ss dial is black. You're right it must be a Panda. How about that? The Seller didn't list it as such.
 
peter_n said:
I could be a "home made" panda. That shutter release doesn't look exactly standard, though maybe its just a screw in add-on.

That's a soft release screw in that is available from the Leica Forum if I remember correctly.
 
AShearer said:
You may be right. I'll h ave to find a picture of a Panda. THanks.
You've never seen a panda?? http://www.worldalmanacforkids.com/images/panda.jpg 😉

Anyway, I heard that the M6 Panda came into being because for one time they had "extra" black shutter speed dials. Get some black film winders, and voila, the Panda.
 
The "Panda" variation came out in 1992-3 and this camera dates to 1989. This has to be modified later with black parts... so in reality it is a modified chrome M6 and can't be considered as rare at all.
 
wpb said:
The "Panda" variation came out in 1992-3 and this camera dates to 1989. This has to be modified later with black parts... so in reality it is a modified chrome M6 and can't be considered as rare at all.


I should be more careful in looking at stuff before I bid!! Fortunately somebody out bid me and the at best, questionable panda is now over $1,000.

AS
 
gabrielma said:
You've never seen a panda?? http://www.worldalmanacforkids.com/images/panda.jpg 😉

Anyway, I heard that the M6 Panda came into being because for one time they had "extra" black shutter speed dials. Get some black film winders, and voila, the Panda.

I've since been educated about pandas, but I think as wdb said, the serial number is wrong.
 
wpb said:
The "Panda" variation came out in 1992-3 and this camera dates to 1989. This has to be modified later with black parts... so in reality it is a modified chrome M6 and can't be considered as rare at all.

Nor is the Panda.As far as I know, in collectors circles it is not regarded as interesting at all, as it was not an official Leica-issue, just something that happened, so the exact numbers are not recorded. It is too easy to fake. The price premium we see now is caused by speculations it might become collectable one day. My advice would be, buy two M6-ses black and silver, make a Panda and an anti-Panda and sell one for too much 😉
 
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