JCH point & shoot camera speculation, news, rumors, and wishlists

[Andy Kibber]

If you have the latest batch then you should better expose it @ISO 50 with reduced development time. Only then you will get good shadow detail and reasonable contrast.
The Agfa aerial films all have a very strong and problematic S-shaped characteristic curve.

I'll see how the film prints when shot at 200 & 400. Then go lower if needed. I'll have to wait for summer to shoot at 50!

But as also said already above, you can buy Agfa Aviphot Pan 200 for half the price compared to the completely overpriced Street Pan.

Streetpan (or Aviphot Pan) won't supplant the Ilford films I know reasonably well and can buy locally.

I added the five rolls of JCH film to an existing JCH order. As I mentioned above, you pay a premium buying used gear from JCH but you know exactly what you're getting. And the JCH film cases are a well-executed and surprisingly handy product. But the t-shirts, hoodies and jackets are a matter of taste.

 

[Mooshoepork]

I'll see how the film prints when shot at 200 & 400. Then go lower if needed. I'll have to wait for summer to shoot at 50!



Streetpan (or Aviphot Pan) won't supplant the Ilford films I know reasonably well and can buy locally.

I added the five rolls of JCH film to an existing JCH order. As I mentioned above, you pay a premium buying used gear from JCH but you know exactly what you're getting. And the JCH film cases are a well-executed and surprisingly handy product. But the t-shirts, hoodies and jackets are a matter of taste.

A well executed copy of a Fuji product.

Noticing a trend here?

 

[Chriscrawfordphoto]

A well executed copy of a Fuji product.

Noticing a trend here?

When JCH started selling the film cases, he stated honestly that they were a copy of the ones Fuji made. Fuji had stopped making them, so he wasn't ripping anyone off; and he was honest about what they were. I have several of them and they're nicely made.

Its the dishonesty about the film, and the people here defending it that bug me.

 

[Mooshoepork]

When JCH started selling the film cases, he stated honestly that they were a copy of the ones Fuji made. Fuji had stopped making them, so he wasn't ripping anyone off; and he was honest about what they were. I have several of them and they're nicely made.


Its the dishonesty about the film, and the people here defending it that bug me.

All I remember is him complaining that “unscrupulous Chinese” were copying his design and selling them on aliexpress.

 

[Skiff]

I'll see how the film prints when shot at 200 & 400. Then go lower if needed. I'll have to wait for summer to shoot at 50!

If you make traditional optical silver-halide prints (which is of course the best you can do with BW negative film) you will have a lack of shadow detail and very (too) high contrast if you are exposing the film at 200 and 400.
Exposing this film at EI 40/50 with reduced developing time is the way to go for optimal tonality with classic optical prints.

EI 50 only in the summer? No, I am using that speed regularly also in the winter. No problem. A very good prime lens with f2 or f1.4, used in the range of open aperture to f4, and / or a fill-in flash offer me the opportunitiy of excellent shots at that speed.

 

[Skiff]

Its the dishonesty about the film, and the people here defending it that bug me.

+1.
But if you look at the fact that Hunt has a close alliance with V. Soniji of "camerafilmphoto" and Maco Photo Products ("Rollei-Film" brand) it isn't surprising that he is so dishonest about his film offering. Maco's business model is for years cheating their customers by making wrong statements and publish misleading and wrong data sheets, and giving lots of stupid marketing blabla.
And selling exactly the same film under completely different names and speeds, and at much different prices.
And also selling badly stored and expired film with strong color shift as new, fresh film (like with CR200).

In our own strong interest as film photographers we should support = give our money only to those real manufacturers, who are
- producing film by themselves
- are honest about their products.
That means currently supporting Ilford Photo / Harman technology, Kodak, Fujifilm, Polaroid, Adox, FilmoTec and Foma.

 

[Mooshoepork]

+1.
But if you look at the fact that Hunt has a close alliance with V. Soniji of "camerafilmphoto" and Maco Photo Products ("Rollei-Film" brand) it isn't surprising that he is so dishonest about his film offering. Maco's business model is for years cheating their customers by making wrong statements and publish misleading and wrong data sheets, and giving lots of stupid marketing blabla.
And selling exactly the same film under completely different names and speeds, and at much different prices.
And also selling badly stored and expired film with strong color shift as new, fresh film (like with CR200).

In our own strong interest as film photographers we should support = give our money only to those real manufacturers, who are
- producing film by themselves
- are honest about their products.
That means currently supporting Ilford Photo / Harman technology, Kodak, Fujifilm, Polaroid, Adox, FilmoTec and Foma.

What about lomo? Isn’t the 120 made by inoviscoat?

What’s filmotec do?

Heard Orwo were starting up again too

 

[Andy Kibber]

If you make traditional optical silver-halide prints (which is of course the best you can do with BW negative film) you will have a lack of shadow detail and very (too) high contrast if you are exposing the film at 200 and 400.
Exposing this film at EI 40/50 with reduced developing time is the way to go for optimal tonality with classic optical prints.

Yup, last year I started making my own darkroom prints from BW negative film. I have BW negatives going back 15+ years and it's been great to work through them, seeing the difference between printing from Tri-X, HP5, Neopan.

I'll see how the JCH film performs for me and report back.

EI 50 only in the summer? No, I am using that speed regularly also in the winter. No problem. A very good prime lens with f2 or f1.4, used in the range of open aperture to f4, and / or a fill-in flash offer me the opportunitiy of excellent shots at that speed.

For my rainy, northern climate shooting at 50 is quite limiting even with a fast lens. But perhaps I'll press my F100 back into service with flash. Could be interesting.

 

[Andy Kibber]

A well executed copy of a Fuji product.

News to me. Jeez you really got it in for this guy huh?

 

[Skiff]

What about lomo? Isn’t the 120 made by inoviscoat?

The Lomochrome Purple and Metropolis are made by InovisCoat. But only the film itself. The 35mm and 120 finishing is made by another partner of Lomography (120 is converted in China afaik; cheap, lower quality). InovisCoat can only make emulsions and coatings. But they cannot convert / finish films.

What’s filmotec do?

http://www.filmotec.de/?lang=en

Heard Orwo were starting up again too

There is no ORWO company anymore. But there are several split-up / successor companies founded by former ORWO employees. One company is making TAC base film, two chemistry.
And two are using the ORWO brand name for their products: ORWOnet, which is a mass volume lab and photo finisher, and FilmoTec, who are using the name for their films.

 

[Skiff]

For my rainy, northern climate shooting at 50 is quite limiting even with a fast lens. But perhaps I'll press my F100 back into service with flash. Could be interesting.

I am also living in a northern, rainy climate.
I can highly recommend using the F100 with fill-in flash: Excellent results! Use a Nikon SB-28, SB-28 DX or SB-800 or the Metz 54 MZ4i for perfect results. All those excellent flashes can be bought for very little money meanwhile.

 

[Ste_S]

@mooshoepork You should really get over your Bellamy Hunt obsession, it's not healthy. Get off the internet for a bit, go for a (Covid safe) walk and take some photos?

 

[Mooshoepork]

@mooshoepork You should really get over your Bellamy Hunt obsession, it's not healthy. Get off the internet for a bit, go for a (Covid safe) walk and take some photos?

Sounds good, what lens are we testing in your backyard today.