Just Unpacked my New Epson V700- need help

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New to scanning, setting up the new V700 and getting message on my macbook pro that "You can't open the application Epson because power PC is no longer supported" and it wouldn't install Epson scan. I think I got around that and installed it manually. Also came with a copy of Silverfast SE on disc. Before I start, I wanted to ask advice for getting the great scans that this machine is capable of delivering. Should I try Vuescan? I want to mainly scan B&W 120 negs, (and some 35mm also). Please share your exact workflow if possible. I plan on post processing in lightroom. Thanks for any help!

Regards,

Kent
 
Programs (applications) that were built for the older Mac PowerPC processors won't run on the latest operating systems built for Intel processors. You can't run the Epson application if you get the message "no longer supported". Vuescan will work fine and is a few good application.
 
Before you spend more money, have you visited the Epson web pages to look for newer drivers & software that will work with your Mac?

Wayne
 
There are drivers on the Epson site which work great with current versions of OSX. Epson Scan is a fine program (learn to use it in Professional mode). I use it for all of my medium / large format scanning needs.
 
New to scanning, setting up the new V700 and getting message on my macbook pro that "You can't open the application Epson because power PC is no longer supported" and it wouldn't install Epson scan. I think I got around that and installed it manually. Also came with a copy of Silverfast SE on disc. Before I start, I wanted to ask advice for getting the great scans that this machine is capable of delivering. Should I try Vuescan? I want to mainly scan B&W 120 negs, (and some 35mm also). Please share your exact workflow if possible. I plan on post processing in lightroom. Thanks for any help!

Regards,

Kent

Kent,

I just looked at your location. We're neighbors. More or less. While I spend way too much time in Houston, home is Holly Lake Ranch. Give me a shout if I can help with your scanning.

Wayne
 
Kent,

I just looked at your location. We're neighbors. More or less. While I spend way too much time in Houston, home is Holly Lake Ranch. Give me a shout if I can help with your scanning.

Wayne

Thanks, Wayne! I sure appreciate it. Downloading updated drivers now. Hopefully can scan my Mamiya 7 negs from the Christmas Eve Candlelight service soon.

Best,

Kent
 
Following is my experience with V700 over the last 5 years. For B&W and color slides, Epson Scan software works fine. Just use professional mode and adjust dynamic range so you get as much in as possible. Color negative is another story, even though Epson Scan is ok too. You could get more consistent results from Vuescan or SilverFast full version (not SE) since they support negative profiles and have more knobs to turn.
 
Here's my first scan with Epson Scan software, straight scan at 300 dpi. Is this the correct resolution?

Kent

Candlelight Christmas Eve Service
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Brad
Depending on the negative, you may able to get much better. That is a fairly challenging scene. Perhaps you could experiment with a daylight shot with even tones.

Anyway, yes 300dpi is "correct" for printing purposes. But that should not be confused with the "dpi" of the scan.

What is said below relates to Epson Scan - I use it extensively on my V700 with Macbook Pro

For example, in professional mode, do the pre-scan. Then go to the professional scan window and make choices for two things:

(a) the target size - it will drop down with a selection of sizes at which the file may be printed after scanning - 5x7 in., A4, 8x10 in. etc etc - select which you think will be the size you want to print

(b) Resolution - you will see a value in blue, maybe "300" - if you hold on the button to the right you will see a lot of other resolutions, up to 12,800! Ignore them. You have chosen a print size of, say, 8x10 inches in step (a), so simply make sure the resolution is set to "300"

It is because of the approach taken in (a) and (b) that you do not need to get into some decision about scanning at 2400 or 9600 dpi - and you will see a lot of debate about that, but it is another story for now.

Because you have chosen a target size of 8x10 and a printing resolution of 300 the V700 and Epson Scan will work out what scanning resolution is required to produce a print at 8x10 with a print resolution of 300dpi (the accepted standard for a print).

When you have scanned that file you can print it quite happily at 8x10 (I use A4) and the print will look as it should. You could also print it at 5x7 because it is by definition a large enough file for that smaller size. However if you print it at, say, A3 it may not hold up too well - because it is sized at scan time in the way noted above.

Try that - see how it goes.

You can ignore the target size business and scan at high resolutions (or "scan dpi") and obtain huge files. However, although I used to do this once I cannot figure out why I would bother if I know what size print I want. Ok, I might do it if I wanted to archive the file at max resolution to cover all printing requirements in the future. But you are just starting out on the long, sometimes tricky and frustrating road of scanning. Remember - Keep It Simple! Go for the freelance stuff later.

I'll be interested to see how you go. There is nothing 'wrong' with Epson Scan once you get your head around it. The same no doubt applies to VueScan and SilverFast, both of which I have used. I kept coming back to Epson Scan.
 
This is a 6x6 neg from Rolleiflex


and do try to rotate the feet on the neg holder which came with your V700 to the +1 position - the focus is better. Well, it is on my machine. And others report similar results
 
Brad
Depending on the negative, you may able to get much better. That is a fairly challenging scene. Perhaps you could experiment with a daylight shot with even tones.

Anyway, yes 300dpi is "correct" for printing purposes. But that should not be confused with the "dpi" of the scan.

What is said below relates to Epson Scan - I use it extensively on my V700 with Macbook Pro

For example, in professional mode, do the pre-scan. Then go to the professional scan window and make choices for two things:

(a) the target size - it will drop down with a selection of sizes at which the file may be printed after scanning - 5x7 in., A4, 8x10 in. etc etc - select which you think will be the size you want to print

(b) Resolution - you will see a value in blue, maybe "300" - if you hold on the button to the right you will see a lot of other resolutions, up to 12,800! Ignore them. You have chosen a print size of, say, 8x10 inches in step (a), so simply make sure the resolution is set to "300"

It is because of the approach taken in (a) and (b) that you do not need to get into some decision about scanning at 2400 or 9600 dpi - and you will see a lot of debate about that, but it is another story for now.

Because you have chosen a target size of 8x10 and a printing resolution of 300 the V700 and Epson Scan will work out what scanning resolution is required to produce a print at 8x10 with a print resolution of 300dpi (the accepted standard for a print).

When you have scanned that file you can print it quite happily at 8x10 (I use A4) and the print will look as it should. You could also print it at 5x7 because it is by definition a large enough file for that smaller size. However if you print it at, say, A3 it may not hold up too well - because it is sized at scan time in the way noted above.

Try that - see how it goes.

You can ignore the target size business and scan at high resolutions (or "scan dpi") and obtain huge files. However, although I used to do this once I cannot figure out why I would bother if I know what size print I want. Ok, I might do it if I wanted to archive the file at max resolution to cover all printing requirements in the future. But you are just starting out on the long, sometimes tricky and frustrating road of scanning. Remember - Keep It Simple! Go for the freelance stuff later.

I'll be interested to see how you go. There is nothing 'wrong' with Epson Scan once you get your head around it. The same no doubt applies to VueScan and SilverFast, both of which I have used. I kept coming back to Epson Scan.

Thanks, agricola! Are you scanning your Black & White negs emulsion side down or up? Or does it matter?

Regards,

Kent
 
I dont think your original question was answered.

You cant open silverfast because previous versions of silverfast (and the one that ships with the V700) is meant for Pre Tiger versions of OSX where a power PC emulator was included into the OS. This has since been phased out with Tiger. You will need to literally scan your receipt, and email it to Silverfast so they can give you a new serial for you to upgrade and install.

I use silverfast and have never had a problem. Just their means of upgrading are completely ass backwards.
 
Kent

Emulsion side up. However you can do emulsion side down. I've done both.

It simply means the image will be reversed and you will have to flip it back later when post-processing the file. Try it both ways and see what suits you.

The curl of the film is a curse for many; longitudinal and across the short side of the negatives. Check out the ANR glass solution from http://www.betterscanning.com

I haven't used it yet. Simple inertia. I should get my act together and try their holders and ANR glass. I've had some curly old film to deal with lately and it was a real chore.

Keep experimenting and keep a log of what you are doing. Once you get a couple that are really good (easier to do with 6x6) you will be hooked.

I just checked out the Epson scan Help files which I've not been to for a long time. Worth a visit. The text and structure used to frustrate me when I first started scanning, but now it seems a reasonably sensible read. Of course I should have been able to say that the first time around! But there it is. Perseverance is the key.

You may also find this review of the V700 of some help here and there: http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson V700/page_1.htm

regards

Dan
P.S. then there is scanning negatives as positives (to capture more tonal range, so it is said) and inverting the resulting file in post - but it may be best to just get familiar with the machine and the Epson (or other) software first
 
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