Kodak ceasing production of all film - FALSE ALARM

[Gumby]

I haven't had dealing with Kodak, but deal daily with other large multi-national corporations. Times are tough, people are greedy and contradictions (as you politely call them) are increasingly common. When we hear contradictions we always have to consider the source. Engineering personnel have different interest/motivations than marketing, who have different interest/motivations than sales, who have different interest/motivations from customer service, who have different interest/motivations than low/middle management, who have different interest/motivations than upper managment, who have different interest/motivations than the Board of Trustees, who have different interest/motivations than the stockholders.

 

[daveleo]

Jees . . . okay . . . mis-communication from some Kodak guy, a weak thread title (missing a question mark ?) . . . the OP scrambled for verification while the mob nipped at his heels . . . . time to drop it ? . . . or throw another dog in the pit ?

 

[Gumby]

. . . or throw another dog in the pit ?

... are you volunteering for pit duty? Ha ha ha.

 

[Nigel Meaby]

How familiar is your 'contractor' with running modern fllm lines?

And conversion (from mother rolls to 35mm)? And perforation? And packaging...

And... um... Land can be worth more than the return you'd get from running coating lines on it. Ask Sterling (late of Bombay).

Cheers,

R.

Hi Roger I'm interested to hear what you know about Sterling. I used some Sterling B&W film when I was in India a few years ago and it wasn't bad at all. Are they no more?

 

[daveleo]

... are you volunteering for pit duty? Ha ha ha.

No . . my fightin' days are over . . . I'm strictly sex, booze and Rock&Roll nowadays ! 😀

 

[Roger Hicks]

Hi Roger I'm interested to hear what you know about Sterling. I used some Sterling B&W film when I was in India a few years ago and it wasn't bad at all. Are they no more?

Alas, gone beyond, The land on which the coating line stood was worth so much that they sold it for a shopping mall or some such. Allegedly, both the old (ex-Agfa) and new (in house, never used) paper coating lines were disassembled and are in storage. As far as I know, they never coated film, though. I'm 99% sure (or more) that the film was a licensed product, but I forget exactly to whom. If they'd had a film coating line I think we'd have seen it on our factory visit.

Cheers,

R.

 

[sepiareverb]

Does the production of say Tri-X require huge orders to run as batch to be feasible? Not at all according to a contractor who was telling that the min. order should be around $14K.

I was told the minimum order to RESPOOL Double-X into 100' cans was $10K. That's just a smaller size package. And this after more than several emails that went unanswered.

 

[zauhar]

I really should know better than to even type this, but as there are clearly still some people struggling with comprehension or the reasons I posted in the first place I'll attempt to be utterly clear.

...

Finally I want to say a quick thanks to Roger for help clearing up the issue so quickly, and with the best possible answer,
and to KM-25, and those that I received PMs from

A classy response to what to me appears to be unfair treatment here.

Randy

 

[kuzano]

Wow!!!!!

Wow!!!!!

Seven Hours and 143 posts later...

I have this vision of the villagers of Belrive, a small village outside of Geneva Switzerland, converging on the rumoured hiding place of Frankensteins Monster (the OP??). Armed with torches, pitchforks, meat cleavers, large knives, nooses and lots of drool, they are intent on the destruction of the monster, in a "kill the messenger" action due to his warning of the demise of "film". (well, a bit of compositional license, here😱)

I can only hope that the Monster will not resort to the last act of Victor Frankenstein's creation and retreat to the far north Arctic, where he will kill himself and burn his body to ashes, so the the world will never encounter his countenance again.

Hang in there, oh villified OP. This too will pass.

 

[Roger Hicks]

Seven Hours and 143 posts later...

I have this vision of the villagers of Belrive, a small village outside of Geneva Switzerland, converging on the rumoured hiding place of Frankensteins Monster (the OP??). Armed with torches, pitchforks, meat cleavers, large knives, nooses and lots of drool, they are intent on the destruction of the monster, in a "kill the messenger" action due to his warning of the demise of "film". (well, a bit of compositional license, here😱)

I can only hope that the Monster will not resort to the last act of Victor Frankenstein's creation and retreat to the far north Arctic, where he will kill himself and burn his body to ashes, so the the world will never encounter his countenance again.

Hang in there, oh villified OP. This too will pass.

Hey, you forgot the axes, billhooks and scythes.

AUX ARMES, CITOYENS!

Cheers,

R.

 

[fstops]

Why a Kodak employee would reply with such news?

Its not April 1st. The only reason one could come up with is, the employee simply tried to pass on a rumor that must be going around Kodak offices.

 

[kuzano]

Oooops...

Oooops...

Hey, you forgot the axes, billhooks and scythes.

AUX ARMES, CITOYENS!

Cheers,

R.

So easy to forget how many farm tools can be used to destroy defilers of farmers daughters.

As you mention it, I suspect that some forms of firearms were also possible in the early 1800's?.... right? That, however, might smack of less rending of the monsters body by the inflamed villagers.

Have to keep the story line as grisly as possible, much as in this thread.:bang:

 

[Nigel Meaby]

Alas, gone beyond, The land on which the coating line stood was worth so much that they sold it for a shopping mall or some such. Allegedly, both the old (ex-Agfa) and new (in house, never used) paper coating lines were disassembled and are in storage. As far as I know, they never coated film, though. I'm 99% sure (or more) that the film was a licensed product, but I forget exactly to whom. If they'd had a film coating line I think we'd have seen it on our factory visit.

Cheers,

R.

Thanks Roger. Too bad!

 

[Roger Hicks]

So easy to forget how many farm tools can be used to destroy defilers of farmers daughters.

As you mention it, I suspect that some forms of firearms were also possible in the early 1800's?.... right? That, however, might smack of less rending of the monsters body by the inflamed villagers.

Have to keep the story line as grisly as possible, much as in this thread.:bang:

Interesting question. I really don't know when firearms would have become affordable to the peasantry. In the USA, they were in reasonably widespread use by the time of the Rebellion in the 1770s. In France or the rest of Europe? Just dunno. My unkind suspicion is that it wasn't until the 20th century, because that was when the bourgeoisie began to pass laws limiting their possession and use, though given the lag between social change and law, the mid-to-late 19th century might be more realistic. Before then, I think you'd need to be quite wealthy to own firearms. There's a school rule against carrying firearms at Winchester that dates from the late 18th century, from memory.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Gumby]

... Rebellion in the 1770s...

Ahem. Rebellion?

 

[sevo]

Why a Kodak employee would reply with such news?

Its not April 1st. The only reason one could come up with is, the employee simply tried to pass on a rumor that must be going around Kodak offices.

The even more simple reason would be that the outsourced, off-shore call centre staffer failed to find an answer on his computer system, and made something up.

 

[sepiareverb]

So easy to forget how many farm tools can be used to destroy defilers of farmers daughters.

 

[Roger Hicks]

Ahem. Rebellion?

Wondered who'd react to that...

Depend on where you're standing, of course.

Consider the Sepoy Mutiny from an Indian viewpoint.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Roger Hicks]

The even more simple reason would be that the outsourced, off-shore call centre staffer failed to find an answer on his computer system, and made something up.

Not unlikely, but my chums at Kodak weren't happy about it.

Then again, offshore call centres tend to use what they think of as WASP names such as John and Christopher.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Gumby]

Wondered who'd react to that...

Depend on where you're standing, of course.

Consider the Sepoy Mutiny from an Indian viewpoint.

Sure, perspective is everything but I thought the only person to ever use that term for America's Glorious War for Independence was Rudy Kipling. 😀