LA woman stabbed, killed taking pictures of homeless
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EdwardKaraa
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When asked for money I always pay. However, my opinion on this particular incident is that some people should be rather shot with guns than with cameras 😉
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Wow, advocating people getting shot with a gun "just in case".
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
I don't think that's what they meant. Maybe more along the lines of murderers should get shot with a gun rather than a camera. (and the comment seems tongue in cheek at that)
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Photographing these types of people is high risk IMO because they may be very unpredictable. I seem to remember Juan Valdenebro (RFFer) getting attacked in Spain when shooting in a red light district.
Tragedy though!
Tragedy though!
EdwardKaraa
Well-known
Thank you! Sometimes a smiley is not enough.
OurManInTangier
An Undesirable
A tragic story no doubt but one that I'm surprised we don't hear more often. With the proliferation of cameras and camera phones as well as the Flickeratti that seem to specialise in images of the homeless its a wonder there aren't more of these attacks. Sense and sensibility goes out the window when some people have a camera in hand.
Not to say some issues aren't to be photographed, simply that some issues require some level of thought before engaging.
Not to say some issues aren't to be photographed, simply that some issues require some level of thought before engaging.
EdwardKaraa
Well-known
But that's in a public place and the homeless guys were clearly looking for attention. Otherwise, I agree about the usual lack of sense and sensibility when shooting these subjects.
rluka
Established
Want to hear more detail. The article implied the man could be pro. Bait people to take picture (with the eye catching sign in a tourist spot) and demand money.
Did he even feel offended and refuse having his picture taken ?
Did he even feel offended and refuse having his picture taken ?
btgc
Veteran
Voyerism can do bad to people. Even photographers get wound and hurt, with all their knowledge and experience. She did wrong thing at a wrong place and time. Some people get stabbed without even reaching for a camera, just because they look wrong. RIP.
Once I were attacked by a woman, which turned out to be a GF of a local mighty one. And picture weren't worth all that hassle, honestly. But I had to do this to learn it. Not all lessons come so easy, though....
Once I were attacked by a woman, which turned out to be a GF of a local mighty one. And picture weren't worth all that hassle, honestly. But I had to do this to learn it. Not all lessons come so easy, though....
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...ng-victim-identified-20130619,0,7409712.story
Doesn't give much more detail, but it does say the allegedly homeless men are in custody.
Sid836
Well-known
How sad! Indeed things can really go wrong when shooting strangers like that. A couple of years ago I had been shooting street people. At the stairs of a church, I had spotted someone sitting with his head on his knees and his hand stretched begging for money. A click and... He'd looked at me with a pissed-off stare, started rising, rising, and rising... I don't remember ever having seen anybody taller than him in my life nor me running that fast as on that day.
Of course, now I am more cautious with strangers than ever.
Of course, now I am more cautious with strangers than ever.
sleepyhead
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Sad story no doubt.
I will only add that in the last few years, ESPECIALLY in the USA, I'm much more cautious regarding people on the street who don't seem to be actively doing much. (Loiterers?) Unless I had a real purpose, such as a photographic project (in which case I woulod try to engage them first), I would not waste time or effort photographing them. Nor take the risk.
This is because there is a real epidemic of drug abuse (e.g., methamphetamines) in the USA in the past few years, and this type of drug can make addicts unpredictable, violent, and desperate for money to obtain more drug.
Be careful people!
I will only add that in the last few years, ESPECIALLY in the USA, I'm much more cautious regarding people on the street who don't seem to be actively doing much. (Loiterers?) Unless I had a real purpose, such as a photographic project (in which case I woulod try to engage them first), I would not waste time or effort photographing them. Nor take the risk.
This is because there is a real epidemic of drug abuse (e.g., methamphetamines) in the USA in the past few years, and this type of drug can make addicts unpredictable, violent, and desperate for money to obtain more drug.
Be careful people!
daveleo
what?
This is good. Hopefully justice will be swift and with as little mercy as this woman was given !
jsrockit
Moderator
Something tells me there is more to this... like the woman who made the photograph said the wrong thing after being asked for cash.
srtiwari
Daktari
Not necessarily. In many parts of the world, taking pictures of beggars, homeless people, or others that tourists often photograph, the subjects often demand money. Refusing them can be, in some cases, quite risky.
raid
Dad Photographer
I used to take late night photos of homeless people on New Orleans before I was married. Now I behave differently to reduce the risk of being harmed.
I also suspect that narcotics played a role in the California murder.
I also suspect that narcotics played a role in the California murder.
mgermana
Established
99% of pictures taken of the homeless are exploitive, so demanding cash from one's exploiter makes a perverse kind of sense.
jsrockit
Moderator
I highly doubt that this was solely over the photo. I'm sure the exchange after the photo is what set this off. I could be wrong, but in the tourist section of town, I doubt the "homeless" were just hoping to be able to stab someone with others around watching.
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
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