Brick33308
Member
Oh thank goodness you’re not one of the dreaded amateurs and wanbabes, and are able to educate everyone with your pronouncements of what constitutes good and bad photography
Leica 35mm Summilux Steel Rim
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Brick33308
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Shot wide open in bright light. I’ll be sure to let everyone on Fred Miranda who praised it know that you’ve labeled it a miss
Ororaro
Well-known
Thanks goodness indeed..
If you havem’t noticed yet, F8 is a marvelous f stop.
Try it, thank me later. For more than 50 years 5.6-8 has always been the target, and then came the pixel peeping, the basement pros and the weekend warriors got born… we’ve seen it all.
Ororaro
Well-known
You want applause for that image? Everyone at fred miranda have spoken… it made you week, I am sure. I am very happy for you.
🙏🏻clap🙏🏻clap🙏🏻clap
Brick33308
Member
From you? I’ll pass.
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
I owned two 35mm pre-asph Summilix examples back-to-back many years ago. Bought the first one and sold it believing there was something wrong with it. When the second one behaved the same way I realized there was nothing "wrong" with it at all.
There's a reason it developed a reputation of simply being a Summilcron pushed out an extra stop.
Even so, it has it's place. Not every lens needs to be tack sharp at every stop.
Ororaro
Well-known
The “fred miranda crowd” was a great uno reverse move. I’m still recovering.
Brick33308
Member
Since you’re so fond of last word retorts, I’m still breathlessly awaiting your explanation why are you own not one, but two, lenses who’s wide open characteristics you abhor
Ororaro
Well-known
How can someone who owns 5 ferraris explain… no, why does one who owns 5 ferraris have ti explain anything to anyone?
I agree, this is not ferrarri. But I believe that one answer would suffice: because life is short,
Brick33308
Member
The owner of five Ferraris doesn’t have to explain anything, although if he trashes Ferraris on a forum dedicated to them, one would expect him to explain away the irrationality.
And saying “life is short” to explain the logic of owning two lenses that you abhor really explains nothing at all.
And saying “life is short” to explain the logic of owning two lenses that you abhor really explains nothing at all.
Ororaro
Well-known
Meh.
Even the owner of Five 1984 ford escorts would bluntly answer “because I can” and there’d be no better and powerful answer.
Even the owner of Five 1984 ford escorts would bluntly answer “because I can” and there’d be no better and powerful answer.
Brick33308
Member
there’s no power because you continue to duck the question which in your words SCREAMS that you have no answer to it
Ororaro
Well-known
But what’s happening here? People are married to 1.4? Can’t fathom there is f2.0 and beyond?
F4.0 is the devil’s number?
Composition first, guys. Composition makes or kills the image, not wide open bs.
Here is a diptych. One image is summilux v2 and the other is summicron 8element V1, both at f8.
While novody will be ablle to differentiate them, the funnier fact is that 99% will agree (or should) that shooting these images wide open would have downgraded them by a huge margin. Bokeh? Softness? What for? To save a flawed composition the same way we would throw sand in the eyes of a stranger, for diversion?
F4.0 is the devil’s number?
Composition first, guys. Composition makes or kills the image, not wide open bs.
Here is a diptych. One image is summilux v2 and the other is summicron 8element V1, both at f8.
While novody will be ablle to differentiate them, the funnier fact is that 99% will agree (or should) that shooting these images wide open would have downgraded them by a huge margin. Bokeh? Softness? What for? To save a flawed composition the same way we would throw sand in the eyes of a stranger, for diversion?
Brick33308
Member
Some people use bokeh and softness for artistic purposes, clearly not the purposes you intended or achieved with those photos
And still waiting to hear why you own two lenses whose well-known wide open characteristics you detest. But I’m not holding my breath for that answer since obviously you do not have one, and instead deflect by giving examples of people who own multiple cars “because they can “
And still waiting to hear why you own two lenses whose well-known wide open characteristics you detest. But I’m not holding my breath for that answer since obviously you do not have one, and instead deflect by giving examples of people who own multiple cars “because they can “
Ororaro
Well-known
Ororaro
Well-known
For rationality’s sake; a summilux lens has 8 solid f stops. Not liking one but liking the remaining Seven would score a rating of 87.5%.
Add 5% for handling and 5% for liking the looks of it, brings it to a total of 97.5%.
Wow, look at this: rationality won. 97.5%.
There are other things than the wide open fad. Yes, and I am sorry, but to me it is a fad and it is a sign of amateurim to be stuck at shooting wide open. There is a thing called composition that outweights EVERYTHING
Ok bye now.
Add 5% for handling and 5% for liking the looks of it, brings it to a total of 97.5%.
Wow, look at this: rationality won. 97.5%.
There are other things than the wide open fad. Yes, and I am sorry, but to me it is a fad and it is a sign of amateurim to be stuck at shooting wide open. There is a thing called composition that outweights EVERYTHING
Ok bye now.
Brick33308
Member
There you go again, casting negative aspersions and name calling on people who own and enjoy the lens.
And clue phone - your “ rationality – 97.5%” wins nothing at all since it doesn’t explain why you own two of the same lens.
Look up Oscar Wilds’ definition of a cynic, it fits you like a glove
And clue phone - your “ rationality – 97.5%” wins nothing at all since it doesn’t explain why you own two of the same lens.
Look up Oscar Wilds’ definition of a cynic, it fits you like a glove
Richard G
Veteran
I bought it because I had wanted that lens for years. And stopped down it’s sharp and straight. And it’s very compact. And if I sell, which I very well might, I’ll make a profit.
Richard G
Veteran
Yes, another reason I bought the Summilux. It took me back to when I was 17 and I too mostly shoot f5.6. I like the lower contrast. It’s compact, and elegant. I’ve gone and lost the hood like a pro too. And no filter suits me fine. Life is short. It’s hardly been off my Monochrom sine I got it. I like this little lens and its history. But I keep away from f1.4. My other constant lens I shoot wide open always, the Summaron M 28 f5.6 on my M9-P. Didn’t need the M9-P version of the M9 but it’s so like my M2 and certainly didn’t need that slow 28. But as you say, life is short.
Brick33308
Member
I like the steel rim reissue because I see it as an all purpose 35mm lens. Wide open it creates a glow that yes isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but I’m wild about it (brings me back to the 70s when I shot Tri-X with a Conin AE1). But stopped down past 2.8 and it becomes a beautifully sharp and rendering lens.
