TrondWA
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Hi I need some information about this two cameras, can any of you determine if they´re real or fake?
Leica I and II real?
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erikhaugsby
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The "Leica II" is undoubtedly fake - check out the mushroom-shaped shutter release, the flat-top VF window on the top front, the rounded corners to the leatherette on front, and the shape of the aperture ring on the lens.
I can't speak for the Leica I.
I can't speak for the Leica I.
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
The I looks real, the II definitely FAKE!
Dez
Bodger Extraordinaire
Agreed. The second camera is definitely a Russian fake, and they didn't try very hard either. Note the Industar aperture ring on the lens.
The Leica I is almost certainly genuine. The Russian fakes of this camera have a taller housing under the shutter speed dial.
Cheers,
Dez
The Leica I is almost certainly genuine. The Russian fakes of this camera have a taller housing under the shutter speed dial.
Cheers,
Dez
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
The 'Leica II' is in fact a Zorki. Re-engraved, painted black, and all brass parts left the factory as chromed parts and were de-chromed by the forgers. Sometimes the lens elements are put back in wrong or the shutter springs are in wrong, so you can't even use the camera.
They often were forged from the early 1990s on to sell at auctions, flea markets, antiques fairs etc and be passed off there as 'valuable Leica' with either a 'small defect' or in 'pristine condition'. Forging continues to this day though.
The Leica I looks legit. See the difference in paint sheen, brass sheen, brassing itself, and vulcanite pattern with the forged Leica II. Evan apart from engravings quality and the cameras specific Leica features and dimensions.
Side by side with a forged Leica I, the difference would be soooooo obvious, you'd cry with laughter!
They often were forged from the early 1990s on to sell at auctions, flea markets, antiques fairs etc and be passed off there as 'valuable Leica' with either a 'small defect' or in 'pristine condition'. Forging continues to this day though.
The Leica I looks legit. See the difference in paint sheen, brass sheen, brassing itself, and vulcanite pattern with the forged Leica II. Evan apart from engravings quality and the cameras specific Leica features and dimensions.
Side by side with a forged Leica I, the difference would be soooooo obvious, you'd cry with laughter!
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