Godfrey
somewhat colored
To me, the intrusion of the LCD, control pad, and function buttons ... regardless of the trivial difference in thickness ... is a much bigger detraction to the elegance and feel of the M4-2 and M6TTL bodies. The M-D typ 262 felt far nicer in the hand, and I suspect the M11-D does as well. (The M10-D annoyed me with its faux wind lever more than any other detraction of the M typ 240, etc, body thickness...)They were fatter (as were the M8 and M9) than the film Ms. The M10 finally got it down to normal M size. I don't think the M fatties were offended.
These notions are all, in the end, trivialities. I put up with the LCD and control protuberances on the M10-R and M10 Monochrom, and adapt to them, because the cameras work so very well.
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JohnGellings
Well-known
Could be, I never held the D versions... those are cool, whether fat or not.To me, the intrusion of the LCD, control pad, and function buttons ... regardless of the trivial difference in thickness ... is a much bigger detraction to the elegance and feel of the M4-2 and M6TTL bodies. The M-D typ 262 felt far nicer in the hand, and I suspect the M11-D does as well. (The M10-D annoyed me with its faux wind lever more than any other detraction of the M typ 240, etc, body thickness...)![]()
Of course, I used the M9 and M240.These notions are all, in the end, trivialities.
Well, they are certainly nice.I put up with the LCD and control protuberances on the M10-R and M10 Monochrom, and adapt to them, because the cameras work so very well.
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rfaspen
[insert pithy phrase here]
M10-R is near perfection. Don't really care what the nom-de-plume may be 😎
Freakscene
Obscure member
I could write one in R or C++, but I'd rather just forget the whole thing.Do you have a 2D FFT routine handy? Would be nice to know the frequency.
That camera almost made me give up photographing I got so frustrated with it.
wlewisiii
Just another hotel clerk
Huh, I've Never managed to get banding that bad and I've pushed mine at 6400 a lot. It gets noisy as f*** but more in that grainy nasty way. I usually only see banding when my images are compressed massively for uploading to websites.There is a genus of Australian snakes in the genus Vermicella, known as bandy-bandy because they are black snakes with white bands around their bodies. Those typ 240 series cameras are also bandy bandys, but their bands are sometimes mesh, or other patterns.
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Leica bandy bandy.
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Reptilian bandy bandy.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
They were fatter (as were the M8 and M9) than the film Ms. The M10 finally got it down to normal M size. I don't think the M fatties were offended.
IMO. Normal size is any Leica M without fatty half-case or without extra grip and thumb support.
Freakscene
Obscure member
That's from my 246. I think it's at ISO 12,500.Huh, I've Never managed to get banding that bad and I've pushed mine at 6400 a lot. It gets noisy as f*** but more in that grainy nasty way. I usually only see banding when my images are compressed massively for uploading to websites.
I can't hang onto them without a grip. I don't use a thumb support, but they all have a grip. My FM2n and other similar size Nikons have a grip too. It's still like the digital Ms to be slimmer than the M9 and typ 240 series.IMO. Normal size is any Leica M without fatty half-case or without extra grip and thumb support.![]()
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
That's from my 246. I think it's at ISO 12,500.
I can't hang onto them without a grip. I don't use a thumb support, but they all have a grip. My FM2n and other similar size Nikons have a grip too. It's still like the digital Ms to be slimmer than the M9 and typ 240 series.
I guess it depends on the roots. My first camera was FED-2 and for many years.
I need no grips and so on. They are just extra bulk for me.
But I added not too bulky, non-prestigious half case for protection
Everything with the grip and VF in the middle is not my cap of tea, only if no alternative...
The M246- that makes sense. A 12-bit image, and black level reduced it further. Big Endian Format DNG. The M Monochrom at ISO 10,000 had some banding when used with fast cards. I put 4x cards in it, never had a problem again.That's from my 246. I think it's at ISO 12,500.
I can't hang onto them without a grip. I don't use a thumb support, but they all have a grip. My FM2n and other similar size Nikons have a grip too. It's still like the digital Ms to be slimmer than the M9 and typ 240 series.
Freakscene
Obscure member
The M10M and M11M don’t display file weirdness unless you get really carried away. But the Pentax Ki-3 iii Monochrome is even better.The M246- that makes sense. A 12-bit image, and black level reduced it further. Big Endian Format DNG. The M Monochrom at ISO 10,000 had some banding when used with fast cards. I put 4x cards in it, never had a problem again.
I loved the files from the MM at ISO5,000, hut avoided using it at higher ISOS.
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