Leica M5: Experience after 1 month and 6 rolls

mikyor1

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First, a little background story on how I came to the M5.
Initially, when rangefinders first piqued my interest, I was looking at purchasing a M6 Titanium because I wanted something that would last and look very pretty, then I started going to all the forums, youtube, flickr, and reading on anything and everything about the M6. I spoke with some colleagues who use Leica rangefinders and spoke on the phone with Sherry Krauter for hours and learned a lot.

After learning about the flare issues, build quality of the M6 vs previous models, and zinc bubbling, I strayed from my original plan to go for an M6. So naturally I decided to go for a classic body. I was absolutely set on a M4. Searched wide and far, set aside around 1200 USD to get a good body/cla.

While searching I came across a superb deal on ebay, for a black M5 for $600. It was a gamble because it had really crappy photos, but it stated it had a CLA by this famous rollei repair guy (confirmed by Sherry that she knew him as well), and so I pulled le trigger.

The only reason I initially had no interest was because it looked ugly, and the common theme of forum posters that it was ugly, deemed by cameraquest as the orphan. All really subconciously offputting to say the least.

I used it for 3 weeks but the GAS was not satisfied, then purchased a M4, which came yesterday. Only due to the fact that I wanted a classic looking M, and what better model to compliment my M5 than a M4 right??

First the M4, was beautiful and all, but whilst shooting, I noticed it wasnt as comfortable. My fingers were cramped, my pinky had no where to sit, and it just didnt feel right. Albeit pretty.

Ultimately, I started to fall in love with my M5, sheerly off of the ergonomics. Its a little thinner, little wider, and kind of squared. Placement of the shutter dial, viewfinder position relative to the extension of the left side. Everything just worked and felt perfect.

Granted, im relatively a big guy. 210 lbs and 6'1" with a preference to the width of a flamenco guitar fretboard, the M4 was just not the right size. It felt like my focusing fingers, face to the viewfinder, and shutter grip were all too closely cramped.

As a result, i'm selling my M4 and buying a second M5, in chrome.

Also just recently, my film counter stopped resetting and is stuck right under 40, and my vertical alignment is slightly off (found out while focusing on lights at night), which really bums me out, but now I got an excuse to get it serviced.

Do any of you M5 folk have a similar experience?

Incase youre wondering:
M3 - wasnt a choice because of .91 viewfinder ( i use 35 a lot)
M2 - didnt like the manual film counter ( and difficult to find without viewfinder decementing that didnt cost a lot)
M7 - too electronic
 
I've had my M5 for about a month, too, and have 5 rolls through her. I bought it through Sherry (a customer of hers wanted to sell and I came along at just the right time), so it is completely rebuilt (new shutter, M4 rangefinder installed, meter adjusted to new batteries, etc).

I completely love the way it handles. The meter is amazing. The viewfinder is bright and quick to focus.
About the only negative so far is the wonky Leica film loading "system". Coming from a Nikon film camera, the Leicas are...quirky to load.

I also picked up (not from Sherry) a CL with a non-functioning meter. I use it with a CV 25mm and VF. It is tiny and nicely built. It's my ersatz Hassy SWC, which I miss.

Enjoy your M5!
 
I've had my M5 for about a month, too, and have 5 rolls through her. I bought it through Sherry (a customer of hers wanted to sell and I came along at just the right time), so it is completely rebuilt (new shutter, M4 rangefinder installed, meter adjusted to new batteries, etc).

I completely love the way it handles. The meter is amazing. The viewfinder is bright and quick to focus.
About the only negative so far is the wonky Leica film loading "system". Coming from a Nikon film camera, the Leicas are...quirky to load.

I also picked up (not from Sherry) a CL with a non-functioning meter. I use it with a CV 25mm and VF. It is tiny and nicely built. It's my ersatz Hassy SWC, which I miss.

Enjoy your M5!

Must be from the college fund guy who found his dads old camera collection. I was waiting for a M4 from her as well. You sure picked a good one.

But as far as the loading, coming from swing backs, I think it works well and good "enough" since i'm not shooting weddings or high quantity image events.

How much did you pay, if you dont mind me asking?
 
As a result, i'm buying a M5, in chrome.



Do any of you M5 folk have a similar experience?

Yes, I prefer bright chrome over black chrome. It is a pity that there are no black paint M5's.

Leica M5 chrome, Summilux 35mm f/1.4 pre asph steel rim chrome, Tmax400.

Erik.

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I actually prefer the black chrome look even the way it wears. But black paint would be absolutely gorgeous. Maybe one day I'll send it off to get painted
 
Like you, I purchased a black M5 first. Only I didn't really care about it; I placed the bid because I was bored... and, to my surprise, I won it. Once Sherry fixed it (the meter was crazy and it may have needed a CLA), I just loved the machine... Since my favorite lenses are 35mm, this camera just has it all: a great viewfinder, excellent position for the shutter speed dial, and nice size for those of us who have big hands. Some six months later I got my second M5 from Tamarkin and it was a beautiful silver body, the best used camera I've seen ever... and both have worked very well for me. The only fly in the soup is that their meters tend to go off adjustment, so they'll have to be shipped both to DAG so that he can work his magic and restore them back to metering normality. I think only the black one is failing, but I'll have the silver one checked as well.

I am also an M4 lover. Heck, I have the whole M4 family (M4, M4-2 and M4-P)! But I go in cycles... right now, I'm in the M4/M2 cycle, but I'm sure I'll return to my M5 love affair some time soon. They're excellent machines... and I find it incredibly reassuring that I can stop while rewinding film without fear of the crank going back on me! 🙂

Looks like I'll go and load one just for the fun of it.
 
I have owned two M5's in the past. A chrome one that wasn't in the prettiest condition (few worn bits, and some RF patch desilvering) but with a perfect meter, which I sold to get a mint looking black one, where the seller lied about the meter which was non-functioning. Right now I use an M6ttl and an M7, but I have to admit that I do miss the M5 a lot... The ergonomics and size are fantastic as Mikyor1 has said, and I find the meter readout in the viewfinder alongside the overhanging shutter speed wheel very speedy to adjust. I also quite like the fact that it's considered ugly- stopped me from babying it!
 
2 years for me and enjoy it a lot... as mentioned the easy access to the shutter speed dial, no reason to take your eye off the OVF being all the exposure info is there, love the spot meter and M5's rewind lever is ratcheted thus can be let go during the rewind process…. all cool unique M features besides being a handsome camera…. enjoy it!
 
^nice double exposure, I saw in your old post you failed, as did I.
Could you give me some better instructions as to the double exposure?

and I agree, I shoot 70% in low light indoors and the M5 works flawlessly
 
doubles !

doubles !

okay i'l try to articulate the process as is do it ...
* i might edit later if it doesn't make sense. 🙂

for the sake of clarity i'll call the rewind lever ( on the front of the cam ) the rewind 'switch' otherwise we'll all get confused.


1. assuming that your film is advanced ( mine always is because that's how i was taught to shoot and because that's how we turn on our favourite lightmeter ) point the lens at your black levis and shoot ( not wearing black levis ? .. um jeez i suppose you could use a lens cap or just your hand or what-have-you to blank out the shot )

2. flip out the rewind crank ( on the baseplate ) and tighten the film in the canister a little - you'll get the feel of it - usually just a third of a turn or so.

3. leave that crank out to keep the clutch engaged and flip the little rewind switch down.

4. now i always hold the cam in my left hand and hold down the lil' rewind switch with the my left thumb while i wind the advance lever with my right thumb. you'll hear a quieter 'whirr' as you wind the shutter and return the meter to position.

5. expose your first shot with our friendly lightmeter needles misaligned one or two stops 'under' to allow for the additive effect of the multi exposures.

6. hold the lil' rewind switch down as you wind the shutter ( and meter ) again as above. repeat exposure until you're happy.

7. when youv'e finished exposing that frame - flip the rewind crank back into place and wind film advance to the next frame. make sure the rewind switch has flipped back to it's position, it always does, but i'm used to the one on my Nikon F2 ( another great double exposure machine ) which sometimes stays switched.

* even if you're about to do another multiple exposure straight away - you still have to flip the baseplate rewind crank back into place to allow the film to advance ( then you flip it out again and take your blank shot but you won't have to tighten the film this time ).

* if you skip the 'tightening the film' step you can drag out a multiple exposure into something that looks like the product of a panoramic camera - especially if shooting low contrast subjects that don't show the edge of the frame too strongly ... fun.

* note : the problem i was having last year was due to the rewind crank on my camera being almost seized up and in need of lube when i got the cam. a tiny drop of sewing machine oil fixed that after it got very hard to rewind on around my fourth or fifth roll.

cheers, AP
 
* also remember that on the M5 ( unlike many other cams ) the exposure counter continues to rotate as you make all these shutter winding motions ... so depending on the number of multiples you do you end up with the counter showing a number far beyond your actual position on the film.
 
So let me see if i got this correct.

If i havent got my film already advanced and meter engaged (aka not cocked and not ready to shoot)
1. flip rewind bottom lever and semi tighten, keep it flipped out
2. push down switch and hold it down
3. advance shutter
repeat steps 2 and 3

is that it?
 
hmmm ... no, advancing and making the blank shot serves a purpose : to get a fresh frame of film lined up before all these gymnastics commence.

this assumes that we want to start with a blank frame.

if you did as you have said you would be adding to whatever your last exposure was on the cam.
which could be a scenario too i suppose ...

AP
 
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