oftheherd
Veteran
I have never met a Leica photographer actually shooting.
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Interesting. I only remember one, about 35 years ago. I think at the time all I had was my Yashica TL and a couple of Yashikors. A Korean gentleman had one and I asked him about it. He didn't know (or so he professed) anything about it, but had just had it lent to him by a friend for his vacation to the mountain temple area. I never saw him do any more than look at it. I am not sure he felt he knew how to use it.
I admit I had an attack of GAS, but couldn't do anything about it then, and don't want to now.
furcafe
Veteran
What a jerk. Perhaps he was employing hipster irony, since "everyone" knows that the CL is a Minolta.
i was at the Discovery Museum with my kids a couple of weeks ago. i had my M8 and MP around my back, the baby was in the baby bjorn in front.
i saw a hipster type guy with a CL shooting his kid and said something like 'hey, that's cool. is that a CL?' he very snottily responded 'yeah. it's a leica, ever heard of it?'
i just turned and walked away. kind of a bummer, it was the first time i have ever seen another person with a film camera at the Discovery Museum.
bob
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
Hey, I'm not a showoff I just own a Minolta with a Leica nameplate on it....
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
Don't know about train-spotters, but there is a whole world of Moleskine afficionados.
Here in the USA, "railfans", AKA train spotters need to use a Moleskine notebook to record the time and date of their roster shots...
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Beautiful... Yet I want a III with a 50 elmar... Someday!
maggieo
More Deadly
Here in the USA, "railfans", AKA train spotters need to use a Moleskine notebook to record the time and date of their roster shots...
All the cool kids are using a dedicated, GPS-tagging iPhone app for that now!
Sparrow
Veteran
Here in the USA, "railfans", AKA train spotters need to use a Moleskine notebook to record the time and date of their roster shots...
here, in the UK, moleskins are pants
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
All the cool kids are using a dedicated, GPS-tagging iPhone app for that now!(I don't actually know, but it sounds like an opportunity for a developer!)
I was being funny, but it wouldn't surprise me. I'm not an iPhone or Android user yet, I still have a "dumb" phone. I do go on photo charters a lot, and have seen a few Leica users over the years, and a bunch of folks who write all the shot details by hand into notebooks, but nobody I've seen uses the Moleskine, although I use a small Moleskine day planner I bought at Amazon late last year.
JohnTF
Veteran
Roger I haven't seen any snobbery around here! There are several that think Leica is the best & that's it. I kind of feel you are a member of this catagory, but I wouldn't consider any of you as snobs, just proud owners! & heck you might be right for all I know because I never owned a Leica. The few really snobbery folks I've run across were Nikon DSLR users & belonged to strobist groups.
There's still hope for your salvation and maturation. ;-)
Leigh Youdale
Well-known
I think we make too much of all this sometimes. Take a different example - Jaguar cars. (Probably more relevant to some than others but the analogy holds true).
Jaguars have always been regarded as a bit special, and many people driving 'ordinary' cars have, at one time or another thought it would be nice to own one. Some in fact make that decision.
Jaguars have been produced since WWII and the company has changed hands a couple of times but it has always kept the philosophy and allure of the marque alive. So there are old Jags, not-so-old Jags and new Jags. There is a certain cameraderie amongst Jaguar owners whether they are members of owners clubs or not. Some of the models were renowned for unreliability of one sort or another; some were not regarded as pinnacles of design either, but people still buy and love them.
The common factor seems to be a certain pride and pleasure in owning and using them, and restoring them. Nothing wrong with that. Are they for everyone? No. Are they the 'ultimate' in transport? Not really but people who own them love them and are prepared to accept any shortcomings for the other benefits they enjoy. Sure, there are a minority of owners who have this "look at me" attitude but they're largely ignored by other owners who like the cars for what they are and not for how they think it makes them look. A bit the same with Leicas I think.
Jaguars have always been regarded as a bit special, and many people driving 'ordinary' cars have, at one time or another thought it would be nice to own one. Some in fact make that decision.
Jaguars have been produced since WWII and the company has changed hands a couple of times but it has always kept the philosophy and allure of the marque alive. So there are old Jags, not-so-old Jags and new Jags. There is a certain cameraderie amongst Jaguar owners whether they are members of owners clubs or not. Some of the models were renowned for unreliability of one sort or another; some were not regarded as pinnacles of design either, but people still buy and love them.
The common factor seems to be a certain pride and pleasure in owning and using them, and restoring them. Nothing wrong with that. Are they for everyone? No. Are they the 'ultimate' in transport? Not really but people who own them love them and are prepared to accept any shortcomings for the other benefits they enjoy. Sure, there are a minority of owners who have this "look at me" attitude but they're largely ignored by other owners who like the cars for what they are and not for how they think it makes them look. A bit the same with Leicas I think.
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FrankS
Registered User
Right on, Leigh. Same with BMW R series motorcycles.
bob338
Well-known
Right on, Leigh. Same with BMW R series motorcycles.
same is true of Triumph motorcycles.
bob
kevin m
Veteran
Wow. Yet another 'question' from Roger with an absolute straw-man premise: There are people out there - others! - who hate us for our swanky cameras!
#1. You made it up. #2. As if. Not one person in 1,000 could identify a Leica camera. Those who can are usually time-wasting, nostalgia junkies who slow me down while I'm trying to shoot.
#1. You made it up. #2. As if. Not one person in 1,000 could identify a Leica camera. Those who can are usually time-wasting, nostalgia junkies who slow me down while I'm trying to shoot.
nobbylon
Veteran
Right on, Leigh. Same with BMW R series motorcycles.
Coincidently I got my r90s out this morning for a quick blast. There's just something about the R bikes.
gb hill
Veteran
I kind of doubt I'll ever make it to that big red dot in the sky!There's still hope for your salvation and maturation. ;-)
KenR
Well-known
Big cameras
Big cameras
If you want to be noticed, as Keith says, buy a bigger camera. When I had my Mamiya C330 I was stared at A LOT. Whether on a hike in a park or on the street, people were looking at that camera from a long way off. I found it very disconcerting. At first I thought that I was being paranoid, but even my wife noticed it - eventually I sold it when she told me that SHE was getting freaked out by the people staring at the camera. Certainly not a Leica in cost or in build, but it was noticed by everyone. If you want serious attention, that's the way to go, not those little stealthy cameras with a red button on them.
Big cameras
If you want to be noticed, as Keith says, buy a bigger camera. When I had my Mamiya C330 I was stared at A LOT. Whether on a hike in a park or on the street, people were looking at that camera from a long way off. I found it very disconcerting. At first I thought that I was being paranoid, but even my wife noticed it - eventually I sold it when she told me that SHE was getting freaked out by the people staring at the camera. Certainly not a Leica in cost or in build, but it was noticed by everyone. If you want serious attention, that's the way to go, not those little stealthy cameras with a red button on them.
S
Stelios
Guest
Leica owners are just showing off!
Yes we are
Yes we are
parsec1
parsec1
...he allways did like the 'Cream'!o sorry!)
Most certainly no apologies required.
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parsec1
parsec1
Coincidently I got my r90s out this morning for a quick blast. There's just something about the R bikes.
I got my M16 out this morning.
Shame about the 'hairhead takin a leak in the John'
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
"Whenever I look at it I realise that these pictures could only have been taken with a Leica!"
I realise this Leica promotional video is typical of the advertising industry's approach to spin ... never let the facts get in the way of a good story!
It still made my eyes pinwheel though! :bang:
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