HuubL
hunter-gatherer
Oh HuubL, what a shame, how could you?!
After many years of collecting conversions I thought you had found something that I have never seen before! I was worried that I had missed an engraving detail that the cognoscenti would treat as ' simply normal'!
It's a very nice camera. Did it come with that Elmar and if it did, is it without a serial number, in other words, was it converted too (maybe)?
Michael, if you insist, I could scratch the comma back in and sell the camera to you for a nice sum..
The camera came with the lens. It's an unnumbered nickel Elmar indeed, and now very clean and coated. So I assume it is the original one that came with the I in 1929 and it was converted when the camera became a IIIa-syn.
Is that possible? The lens says 50mm; I thought Elmars of that period were indicated as 5 cm.
@Erik: googling Leica IIIa-syn brings up many more photos with plain knobs than with indicator knobbed cameras. So I suppose both knobs were used, or the reminder was only installed on later conversions. BTW, the rangefinder cover in your picture is old-style, not the "flatter" shape of the new IIIa-syn covers. Perhaps we should consider these drawings only as technical interpretations, not as actual representations.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
So I suppose both knobs were used, or the reminder was only installed on later conversions. BTW, the rangefinder cover in your picture is old-style, not the "flatter" shape of the new IIIa-syn covers. Perhaps we should consider these drawings only as technical interpretations, not as actual representations.
About the knobs: could be you are right, but the 'reminder' knob has a separate part number and is indicated only for use on the IIIa syn. Could be that when the film speeds became outdated many knobs were replaced by plain ones.
I don't know what you mean by "the 'flatter' shape of the new IIIa syn covers". AFAIK, there is only one type, apart from black and chrome.
Erik.
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
I mean the slope of the "roof" underneath the speed selector is much longer than in real life.
Dralowid
Michael
Ah, I see what you mean, go back to the picture in my post no:342 page 14 on this thread , much less bevel on a conversion's moulding.
And then there is the question of the dot on the shutter button, the camera with a film reminder has it and the one with plain knobs, like yours, doesn't!
And then there is the question of the dot on the shutter button, the camera with a film reminder has it and the one with plain knobs, like yours, doesn't!
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
Ah, the dot! True, that's present only on IIIfs, the cameras with the reminder knob.
So, I assume there are two types of conversions: earlier (I presume) ones with the plain knob and no dot on the shutter button, and later ones with the reminder and the dot!
So, I assume there are two types of conversions: earlier (I presume) ones with the plain knob and no dot on the shutter button, and later ones with the reminder and the dot!
Dralowid
Michael
The fun of all this is that it is dangerous to presume (or assume) anything...
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Congratulations, because fixing a SCNOO is not as easy as it seems!
Erik.
Erik.
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
Ah, I see what you mean, go back to the picture in my post no:342 page 14 on this thread , much less bevel on a conversion's moulding.
And then there is the question of the dot on the shutter button, the camera with a film reminder has it and the one with plain knobs, like yours, doesn't!
Michael, Erik, I can't check this as I don't have a IIIa-syn with the reminder wind knob. How does the counter proceed when winding? With just one little jump to the next number or does it do a full turn before ending on the next number?
Erik van Straten
Veteran
With just one little jump to the next number or does it do a full turn before ending on the next number?
A full turn plus one mark as it has the same gear and shaft as any other I, II, III, IIa and IIIa with or without synchronisation.
Erik.
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
Thanks Erik.
Dralowid
Michael
Has anyone got an example (or even a picture) of a post war conversion from a fixed lens Leica I to Leica Standard or similar? Pre-war ones are relatively common.
Some years ago I think I remember seeing one, black and chrome, slow speed blanking plate, small rewind knob, strap lugs etc.
To confuse the issue I think some Leica Standards assembled in the US had a slow speed blanking plate but they would be earlier and mostly chrome???
Any thoughts?
Some years ago I think I remember seeing one, black and chrome, slow speed blanking plate, small rewind knob, strap lugs etc.
To confuse the issue I think some Leica Standards assembled in the US had a slow speed blanking plate but they would be earlier and mostly chrome???
Any thoughts?
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
The fun of all this is that it is dangerous to presume (or assume) anything...
Yes, it seems these conversions were very unpredictable as to what would come out of the factory. I just found this post of a IIIasyn with nickel knobs (including a plain wind knob) and a dot on the shutter bottom.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Leica IIasyn, Voigtländer Color Skopar 50mm f/2.5, Tmax400.
Erik.
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
Leica IIasyn, Voigtländer Color Skopar 50mm f/2.5, Tmax400.
Erik.
Erik.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Love your pictures, Erik...! Superb stuff.
Ron (Netherlands)
Well-known
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Johan en Ron, bedankt!
Erik.
Erik.
Bruno Gracia
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Ey guys, I'm looking for a Barnack, which one Would You recommend?
IIIa or IIIc? II versions haven't got the 1/1000 and 1/15 speeds, if I'm right!
I will use it with a 28 Skopar 3.5 and probably I will get a Summar.
So.. if I pick a II (I think is smaller than III) could be converted to a III for fast and slow speeds?
Thanks!
IIIa or IIIc? II versions haven't got the 1/1000 and 1/15 speeds, if I'm right!
I will use it with a 28 Skopar 3.5 and probably I will get a Summar.
So.. if I pick a II (I think is smaller than III) could be converted to a III for fast and slow speeds?
Thanks!
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