Dralowid
Michael
A very nice camera indeed.
One thing though, don't you find that hood rather heavy and cumbersome? As I understand it they were originally made for use in the darkroom.
You need a black FISON plus VOOLA!
One thing though, don't you find that hood rather heavy and cumbersome? As I understand it they were originally made for use in the darkroom.
You need a black FISON plus VOOLA!
mnutzer
no title
Valoo
Valoo
Yes, unfortunately the VALOO is quite big and heavy.
But in excellent condition it costs less than a VOOLA, not to mention a black FISON.
In addition, the VALOO has snaps at the modern aperture values, even if the numbers are upside down.
The nickel-Elmar is only rarely used on analog Leicas - almost more at the digital M because of the higher usable ISO values.
On the IIIa syn is used more a collapsible Summicron 2.0-50mm.
Valoo
Yes, unfortunately the VALOO is quite big and heavy.
But in excellent condition it costs less than a VOOLA, not to mention a black FISON.
In addition, the VALOO has snaps at the modern aperture values, even if the numbers are upside down.
The nickel-Elmar is only rarely used on analog Leicas - almost more at the digital M because of the higher usable ISO values.
On the IIIa syn is used more a collapsible Summicron 2.0-50mm.
mnutzer
no title
Wat a very beautiful sample. Would you like to reveal its serial?
The IIIa syn was a black III from 1933.
It was converted at Leica in the later 1950s according to the engraving DBP.
To hide the serial number, a Voigtländer 35mm finder was pinned.
Please understand that the serial number will not be published on the Internet.
Too many fraud cases have become known, where fraudsters attempted to fake property and sales by means of photographs and serial numbers.
Perhaps it is still interesting for you that the IIIa syn was overtaken by Will van Manen in the Netherlands.
Al het beste en vaarwel
Dralowid
Michael
Interesting thought regarding fakes etc...after all a conversion could have almost any serial number, well almost any pre-war serial number.
I have seen a 4 digit black IIIa....
I have seen a 4 digit black IIIa....
mnutzer
no title
...after all a conversion could have almost any serial number, well almost any pre-war serial number.
I have seen a 4 digit black IIIa....
That's right, a modernized Leica usually kept its original serial number.
So we still can determine today what type of Leica has been converted.
There were lists by Leica where one could read which older Leica could be modernized up to what newer model.
Dralowid
Michael
There were lists by Leica where one could read which older Leica could be modernized up to what newer model.
That's right, it was posted awhile back in this thread and is still there...including prices.
rfaspen
[insert pithy phrase here]
I find the whole secrecy of serial numbers to be a bit humorous. Its really only the true rarities that would benefit from withholding serial numbers. The camera shown a couple posts previous is not likely one of these
It sure is a beautiful camera. The black paint looks really nice on my screen. The black viewfinder looks great on it too. I have that viewfinder in chrome and I like how it looks on my early Barnacks (such as my favorite non-conversion IIIa, serial 224630). Now I need a black Barnack (converted or not) -- and a black viewfinder!
It sure is a beautiful camera. The black paint looks really nice on my screen. The black viewfinder looks great on it too. I have that viewfinder in chrome and I like how it looks on my early Barnacks (such as my favorite non-conversion IIIa, serial 224630). Now I need a black Barnack (converted or not) -- and a black viewfinder!
mnutzer
no title
The black Voigtländer 35mm viewfinder was bought since a rare black SBLOO remains unpayable.
Also black overpaints from former silver SBLOO viewfinders have been already offered.
And the optical qualities of the Voigtlander viewfinder are convincing.
Only the silver mounting shoe could also be black painted.
By published serial numbers fraudsters should have already tried with the help of their attorneys to claim wrong property rights for themselves.
Who would like to waste time and money by answering unpleasant questions of assigned police departments?
Not in all countries one can acquire in good faith property of used things.
What is to do if suddenly for example a heiress community claims by the serial number, that the camera had been stolen from their grandfather?
Particularly in cameras from the pre-war period, proof of ownership is often difficult or even impossible to prove.
analoged
Well-known
A de-slow speeded IIIa?
Thats what I would say!
Ron (Netherlands)
Well-known
By published serial numbers fraudsters should have already tried with the help of their attorneys to claim wrong property rights for themselves.
Who would like to waste time and money by answering unpleasant questions of assigned police departments?
Not in all countries one can acquire in good faith property of used things.
What is to do if suddenly for example a heiress community claims by the serial number, that the camera had been stolen from their grandfather?
Particularly in cameras from the pre-war period, proof of ownership is often difficult or even impossible to prove.
Well perhaps an option for you is to publish just the first two digits and putting xx's in for the rest of the numerals.
B-9
Devin Bro
Thats what I would say!
That is how it was advertised. I'm curious what they used to plug the hole behind the apparent leatherette patch.
We will find out next week!
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
I'm curious what they used to plug the hole behind the apparent leatherette patch.
Would the hole need to be plugged? Wouldn't a leather or vulcanite cover be enough?
I would be interested to know how the 1/20 speed works with the slow speed escapement removed.
B-9
Devin Bro
David,
I peeled the leather off, no plug, just a simple patch. Although I plan to add one. Actually I wish I could find the proper cover plate like on my IIc so far no luck.
20-1 works fine without the slow speed escapement.
1/1000 is nice to have! My III and IIc max at 1/500.
Now to order leatherette.
I peeled the leather off, no plug, just a simple patch. Although I plan to add one. Actually I wish I could find the proper cover plate like on my IIc so far no luck.
20-1 works fine without the slow speed escapement.
1/1000 is nice to have! My III and IIc max at 1/500.
Now to order leatherette.
analoged
Well-known
Just me, but if I was recovering I'd remove the strap lugs like a true II, I think they look so clean that way!
Dralowid
Michael
Curious...s/n refers to a Ic but they were always chrome, looking more closely it surely a repaint.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEICA-IC-...562303?hash=item238a71b1ff:g:HMkAAOSw4-VZcidN
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEICA-IC-...562303?hash=item238a71b1ff:g:HMkAAOSw4-VZcidN
anfenglin
Member
My beloved II, updated with slow speeds, so it is now a III.
Built in 1932, the Elmar is from 1933.
It was just serviced by Phototechnik Rheinhardt and it runs like new.
This is a slightly older picture, I've now updated it with new leather as the old covering was loose and like dry parchment, the slightest wiggle would move it about and removing it was like breaking potato chips into smaller parts.
Built in 1932, the Elmar is from 1933.
It was just serviced by Phototechnik Rheinhardt and it runs like new.
This is a slightly older picture, I've now updated it with new leather as the old covering was loose and like dry parchment, the slightest wiggle would move it about and removing it was like breaking potato chips into smaller parts.
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Ron (Netherlands)
Well-known
This might be a nice convertible...
This might be a nice convertible...
Don't know the seller, but saw this one which offering is still running...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-II-II...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
This might be a nice convertible...
Don't know the seller, but saw this one which offering is still running...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-II-II...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Dralowid
Michael
I rather like the black OORAKO or OKARO or whatever it is called, shame about the darkroom lens hood.
dourbalistar
Buy more film
I rather like the black OORAKO or OKARO or whatever it is called, shame about the darkroom lens hood.
ORAKO or OKARO, just don't get the wrong one. Ask me how I know. :bang:
http://www.pattayadays.com/2015/03/i-say-orako-you-say-okaro/
markk
Member
iic conversion
iic conversion
Hi all,
Just received this guy today. Still a newbie in the Leica world. Serial number indicates this is a 1948 IIC, but with a conversion. What little I know about conversions....I have only seen a few IIc conversion photos, and the do not have the synchro ring screwed into the top plate, the numbers are cast into the plate. This one now has a top speed of 1000, with no slow speeds. Wondering what model this actually is considered after the conversion.
Thanks!
iic conversion
Hi all,
Just received this guy today. Still a newbie in the Leica world. Serial number indicates this is a 1948 IIC, but with a conversion. What little I know about conversions....I have only seen a few IIc conversion photos, and the do not have the synchro ring screwed into the top plate, the numbers are cast into the plate. This one now has a top speed of 1000, with no slow speeds. Wondering what model this actually is considered after the conversion.
Thanks!
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