I was hoping you wouldn't post this. Not quite a fair comparison... one is a fixed lens model, one isn't.
Well, the comment was 'there is no full frame competition in M form factor' but it didn't specify interchangeable lenses.
Leica has prior history of using 'mini' in a product name.
Could it simply be a full frame compact with a 40/2.4 Summarit?
Ah, the Minilux was my favorite in the 90s. I used it as my P&S companion to the M6.
Perhaps the minidigilux will be the P&S companion to the M10. (I refuse to refer to it as the M240.)
MaxElmar
Well-known
No major press event planned, right? That means no big deal. X2 (new name probably) with a fast (or fast-ish) fixed zoom. Cool, but nothing irresistible at X2+40% price point.
(People should ignore me - I laughed at the idea of the Monochrom before it arrived.)
(People should ignore me - I laughed at the idea of the Monochrom before it arrived.)
kbg32
neo-romanticist
What I missing Keith... with out the rangefinder / vf, wouldn't it need liveview?
Hi John, I said that in the previous post - full time live view.
Hi John, I said that in the previous post - full time live view.
Oh I thought no meant no RF and no liveview.
Honestly, I'm just hoping it is something that I don't want.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
No major press event planned, right? That means no big deal. X2 (new name probably) with a fast (or fast-ish) fixed zoom. Cool, but nothing irresistible at X2+40% price point.
(People should ignore me - I laughed at the idea of the Monochrom before it arrived.)
Max,
I remember the Monochrom Rumor thread, and the Monochrom ended up being my dream camera. and it was as if Leica especially designed it for me. LOL. Dreams come true sometimes.
I'm hoping that Leica surprises us again. I say it would be cool to use the FF sensor and liveview for going ultra-wide. For me it would be perfect for using a 21/3.4 Super Elmar and other Leica ultra-wides.
What I really want though is a Monochrome version. I was delusional once before, but I know it is unlikely that another dream come true will happen again.
Cal
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Honestly, I'm just hoping it is something that I don't want.
John,
This makes me laugh. On one hand I want Leica to build me another dream camera, but on the other hand I don't. LOL.
The Monochrom set me back and for me was a game-changer. Remember when I was a die-hard B&W film only guy?
Cal
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Here I am, thinking Ricoh took the GXR with M-mount off the market suddenly because they will be selling it as a re-branded Leica Mini M!

Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
What annoys me slightly is that after having dismissed Leica as too niche and especially too expensive for years, they come out with the M240, which to all intents and purposes is the camera that fits my needs as a photographer best. Oh, the irony.
That having said, a full frame no rangefinder camera seems like the best bet.
That having said, a full frame no rangefinder camera seems like the best bet.
EdwardKaraa
Well-known
Honestly, I'm just hoping it is something that I don't want.
Your wish will come true. Nothing interesting for M users.
pieter
Established
Judging from all the predictions, my only real prediction is that the mini m will disappoint a lot of people.
Most of the predictions made could maybe come true around next photokina, but this is a half assed in-between release in the middle of the launch/roll out of their most important release in a very long while. No way will it be anything major.
Most of the predictions made could maybe come true around next photokina, but this is a half assed in-between release in the middle of the launch/roll out of their most important release in a very long while. No way will it be anything major.
Honestly, I'm just hoping it is something that I don't want.
This is not a problem for me, I know I won't!
hteasley
Pupil
I would guess an m-mount X2, in essence. APS-C, uses the external EVF for folks that want it.
david.elliott
Well-known
Only thing I would be interested in is full frame (same sensor as 240) but with built in evf / no rangefinder mechanism.
JF Felinik
Member
Leica finally responds to Fuji X series?
This was my thought as well, and APS-C rangefinder with their M mount still.
Tom Diaz
Well-known
Yes, I've been trying to post something along those lines but the forum's server must have some sort of bad language filter.
Pete
Yeah, it's amazing what a hard time they are having keeping up with demand as it is.
To me, that is one of the things that lends support to the idea that this is a rebadged GX2. That would also explain why they are talking a bit now but not releasing many details, since the GX2 is also a few months down the road.
I would love to think that "rebadged" would have some meat on the bones, such as extra technology to facilitate use of M lenses.
I also like the idea that it's an EVF-only full frame M, although I do not see how, from Leica's viewpoint, that helps them. They already have the M240 if you want a "real" Leica, with a big sensor and EVF capability. If a camera like that cost "only" $5000 instead of $7000 or something, I wonder if it really would sell that much more than the M240.
Tom Diaz
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Tom,Yeah, it's amazing what a hard time they are having keeping up with demand as it is.
To me, that is one of the things that lends support to the idea that this is a rebadged GX2. That would also explain why they are talking a bit now but not releasing many details, since the GX2 is also a few months down the road.
I would love to think that "rebadged" would have some meat on the bones, such as extra technology to facilitate use of M lenses.
I also like the idea that it's an EVF-only full frame M, although I do not see how, from Leica's viewpoint, that helps them. They already have the M240 if you want a "real" Leica, with a big sensor and EVF capability. If a camera like that cost "only" $5000 instead of $7000 or something, I wonder if it really would sell that much more than the M240.
Tom Diaz
Unlikely to reduce Leica sales overall. With an adequate profit margin at (say) $4000, why would Leica not do it?
Cheers,
R.
V
varjag
Guest
Jup the viewfinder is nice, but wouldn't call it "innovative world leading mirrorless tech"
Well typ 240 supposedly does everything fujinexsung mirrorless do, plus has a rangefinder, plus a fullframe sensor. Autofocus is irrelevant in enthusiast segment, I met very few NEX owners who actually use NEX system lenses rather than M mount glass or bizarre cine glass from 16mm Boley.
The competitors don't really show much innovation for all their money and bloated R&D depts.
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