Michael Markey
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I`ve heard it said that George Lucas copied some of her shots and angles for his Star Wars films.
Leni Riefenstahl's IIIc?
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johnf04
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Peter Jackson's shots of Saruman addressing the Uruk-Hai in "The Two Towers" show Riefenstahl's influence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQq4LjSF2rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQq4LjSF2rc
Beemermark
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James Evidon
Established
Only if it has an umlaut. ( "ä") Makes sort of an oohh sound rather than the normal aah sound. So she probably meant "boring".
Retro-Grouch
Veteran
Quite a jump from the worship of the "Aryan" race to the worship of the Nuba, both based on some really skewed Nietzschean notion of an uncorrupted race. I wonder what her boyfriend would have thought of that.
Purely based on a superstitious notion of "bad energy", you couldn't give me her Leica.
Purely based on a superstitious notion of "bad energy", you couldn't give me her Leica.
Coldkennels
Barnack-toting Brit.
Personally, I'd love to own Leni's Leica... if only to photograph the most "deviant" stuff possible.
Imagine, for instance, giving it to Nan Goldin to use as a perverse middle-finger to the ideology of its former owner. I'd take great joy in that.
Freakscene
Obscure member
You could also ask info@leica-camera.com about the delivery information.
rulnacco
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Yep. Even if I knew that I actually owned one of her cameras, I'd never tell that to anyone else--and I'd pretend I didn't know myself.
Mos6502
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What a strange thread to revive. In any event, one thing about Leni that has stuck with me is her justification of her propaganda films. She would defend them, claiming they're not propaganda, because everything in them actually happened, she was simply documenting it. A claim which in and of itself is rather brilliant propaganda. Interestingly, one of the most virulent propagandists of our time, Chaya Raichik, has used the same justification for her hate mongering repeatedly. Some things never change.
Freightdawg747
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I collect antiques and antique cameras. I come across cameras and for some reason silverware all the time that owners claim belonged to the likes of Eva Braun, Hitler, Leni Riefenstahl, Goering….etc. If it were all true those listed would have all been considered hoarders and there wouldn’t have been any room in the bunker. I find a lot of the silverware amusing, you can tell the monograms are fake immediately.
boojum
Ignoble Miscreant
Likewise, there is so much American "Colonial Furniture" that one must think that all our forebears did was make furniture.
JSteed#2
Established
This is a certainly a forum for the exchange of a wide variety of ideas. It is also a place of free speech.
Having said that, I would have preferred that this topic be left for some other forum. And, as a child of holocaust survivors, I find the notion of excitement around the sale of Riefenstahl's camera, or anything associated with her, very troubling.
Compliments to all for the civilized way in which the topic has been discussed.
Having said that, I would have preferred that this topic be left for some other forum. And, as a child of holocaust survivors, I find the notion of excitement around the sale of Riefenstahl's camera, or anything associated with her, very troubling.
Compliments to all for the civilized way in which the topic has been discussed.
mnutzer
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Another of the many grandfathers' tales, most of which involve Leicas allegedly found on dusty attics. But as long as it is not sent to an Ukrainian forger to engrave an "original" signature, we can laugh wearily about it.
Has anyone ever watched one of her unspeakable propaganda films in its entirety? I deny them any artistic value, even if she exploited good cameramen.
Has anyone ever watched one of her unspeakable propaganda films in its entirety? I deny them any artistic value, even if she exploited good cameramen.
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
We come from a long line of furniture makers and sadly people no longer respect wood. Our family heirloom is now a Kallax shelf from IKEA. You can stack them.
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
Nationalism bores me. These films are all over YouTube. Substitute the swastika for badge of choice. No thanks. Look at the size of the crowd! Hughhh.
boojum
Ignoble Miscreant
I am an historian by training and education. While I do not welcome or agree with all that is expressed or done I look at those things as indicators of who and what we are. And those indicators change to some degree while there is always a subtle underlying theme. See Hofstadter's The Paranoid Style in American Politics. It is part of who and what we are, sometimes on the surface, sometimes not. The Eisenhower Years are oft remembered as a time of stability and tranquility. They were also the years of the McCarthy Era.
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dexdog
Veteran
These are nicer than Ikea, and you can stack them.😀 My 1940s Honeywell Heiland projector with 1000 watt incandescent bulb and associated magic lantern slides. One of my grandfathers was a carpenter, and I like to use some of his old tools when I build furniture
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boojum
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My point, or what I meant to be my point, was that there were an awfully lot of fake pieces of "Colonial Furniture". There are so many that it would suggest that all of Colonial America was building furniture. It's an old joke.
Rayt
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My name is Ray and I am an Antique Roadshow addict. I learned about those forgeries from TV. Can’t afford real antique furniture but garage sales got more interesting.
boojum
Ignoble Miscreant
Those twins on AR are savvy. At one time I knew a bit about American Colonial furniture and they impressed the hell out of me with their exposition of fine details indicating place of fabrication and time. There were some wonderful colonial pieces. And tons of fakes.
