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This document gives information about the relative prices of many Leica items in 1938 ... in Belgian francs. Most expensive item is the well known LYOOX at BF 7752,--. The LOOYE, a Leica 250 in black, was only BF 6690,--. The COSTI, the knob of your developing tank, came cheap at BF 7,50.

Erik.

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Dralowid said:
These look like fun!

FARBA and FARPU for Hektor, FOOSM and FOOPX for Summar

https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/294915475574577427/

https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/292734044505466326/

http://www.leicashop.com/vintage_en/agfacolor-filter-foopx-foosm-f-leica-sku24517-21.html

Fascinating. Although the hardware gets a passing mention from time to time I am yet to find on the net a detailed explanation as to how it actually worked or how one went about using it.

Bet David has the detail in his library!
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Hi,

Got the book and here's the e-book:-

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hpcEp9408hgC&pg=PA112&lpg=PA112&dq=FARPU+Leitz&source=bl&ots=dPeC1C3CEz&sig=5j1R7V_L71oLegJvwrEH1YBVMD4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt3qKbi5TLAhWEQJoKHR-CCRkQ6AEIHzAA#v=onepage&q=FARPU%20Leitz&f=false

Have fun. David

PS And while I was looking I found 'FIONA Orange filter; ADFIK 34 mm mount'...
 
Hi,

Part of the service...

I'll wish you luck and a deep pocket over the 1935 LNT but you never know, they often turn up for free but you do have to spend a lot of time looking through job lots in flea markets and ebay etc. OTOH, usually the rest of the stuff can be unloaded and cover your costs or better.

Now I'm going into boggle mode thinking up headings for ebay involving NOOKY and FIONA...

Regards, David
 
Erik van Straten said:
This document gives information about the relative prices of many Leica items in 1938 ... in Belgian francs. Most expensive item is the well known LYOOX at BF 7752,--. The LOOYE, a Leica 250 in black, was only BF 6690,--. The COSTI, the knob of your developing tank, came cheap at BF 7,50.

Erik.
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Hi,

Thanks, I'm still trying to get my head round the prices but as I don't trust the internet it's proving a problem.

And as soon as I'd typed that the brain kicked in and I remembered the 1938 book (AA Touring Guide) and found 1 UKP was 145,50 B fcs. Now to find the UK prices then (1938) and to compare.

Regards, David
 
David, excellent stuff and great to see!

I particularly like the rubber stamp, 'This is MY PROPERTY and is NOT TO BE THROWN AWAY..'etc. Looks like it was directed at someone specific!

Michael
 
I might as well throw this into the mix. There was a lot of profiteering during the 2nd World War, with both the British Govt. and the public chasing Leicas and Contax etc. So a rule was made that the second-hand price could not exceed the pre-war price. And this was the result;-

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It explains the rules, offers help and, as far as I can see, listed every price for everything photographic.

Regards, David
 
I knew of the scheme to buy up cameras for the war effort but had not given much thought to the prices paid...which I assume is covered here? Or is this for retail sales...wonder how many there would have been in '43...

Fascinating.
 
Hi,

That rule was aimed at wicked dealers who where selling to the poor old public. And, as you mentioned it, I might as well throw this into the mixture.

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Regards, David
 
" - you will get an amount which will buy more, after the war, than the camera you sell now."

I do wonder if they did (or could) in the end...late forties UK was hardly an affluent time, cold too!

At least the weren't all melted down to make Spitfires like Granny's pots and pans!
 
Hi,

I thought 1947 was very hot and also very cold. Winter 1963 was colder but more fun...

Regards, David

PS (Edit) We didn't really get new German cameras in the UK until the 50's as the USA had them all. I might have some 50's magazines in the heap. I'll have a look.
 
Which was the winter with the fuel shortage? 46? 47?

I'm too young to remember the 40s but do recall National Health Orange Juice, Radio Malt, Brewers Yeast, Gees Linctus, Friar's Balsam etc etc...not to mention gripe water!
 
Hi,

I don't know about fuel shortages but it wouldn't surprise me. Mostly I remember 1963's winter because my favourite pub was completely cut off by the snow and so was serving extra large helpings of food, rather than throw it away... I worked in a bank at the time and we had problems with key holders not coming in and had to borrow cash from other banks (and vice versa) before we could open the branch.

Back to cameras; I looked at prices - new and second-hand - for 1939 and then second-hand only for the end of the 40's. My mistake was listing at 1939 prices first as few were available later on.

Roughly speaking the 1939 magazines were twice the size (100 pages compared to 48) and second-hand prices were double, treble or nearly four times the pre-war ones. Not much was available but here's a sample or two; the 90mm f/4 Elmar new at £11.65 and S/H after the war £32.50; Leica IIIb & Summitar new '39 £45.65 and 10 or so years later £121 second hand. Even the old Contax 1 jumped from £26.50 to £70.50 !

A minor point, a few adverts distinguished between coating on lenses; some saying 'factory coated' or 'original coated' and plain 'coated' from the same advert. So I guess the cottage industry for lens coating had begun.

Regards, David
 
Reviving this thread with something that is tenuously relevant...another bit of kit for the pre war Agfa Colour system that we discussed earlier.

OK so it is a Contax mount 85mm Sonnar and filter so shouldn't even be in this thread but good to see what the 'competition' was up to and compare.

Lot 377 at the forthcoming Westlicht auction.

http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?id=4

Michael
 
Hi,

Interesting. I wonder how they used it as the speed was dreadful and then there's that filter to make it worst.

Looking at the leaflet with some Dufaycolor in the heap I think it must have been very, very slow. Working backwards from the funny 16 rule I get 5 to 10 ASA or ISO. Call that 7½ and it's still frightening because Dufaycolor didn't have a filter to slow it down more.

Regards, David
 
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