brokencivilian
Established
Igor has a handful of M's at decent prices (for 2011), certainly lower than what you'd find on ebay.
http://www.igorcamera.com/leica_cameras.htm
Thanks, I'll check it out.
brokencivilian
Established
Already seen an M6 cheaper there than eBay.. however.. is it USD or?
(eBay 1300-1500 CAD, which is like 1200USD probably... i dont know..)
(eBay 1300-1500 CAD, which is like 1200USD probably... i dont know..)
People start using more M mount lenses for various digital bodies, M9 included. Many also probably decided they wanted a 35mm body as well; drove up prices.
I can't see this being the case. There were more M film camera users prior to digital.
rogerzilla
Well-known
I have to borrow money to pay for rent and food atm.. I am thinking about leicas and looking for deals so hopefully later in the summer, and back working and not in school. That i can get one.
Do you have a list of sites?
Only in the UK, and the import duties will be prohibitive if you're outside the EU.
brokencivilian
Established
Only in the UK, and the import duties will be prohibitive if you're outside the EU.
Ah, well. I guess I'll look harder for deals around canada/us
Ah, well. I guess I'll look harder for deals around canada/us
Just a little advise....
Maybe the best Leica right now is a Canon P.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/pho.../3-canon-ps26amp-3b-2-100mm-ltms-lenses/cat/3
The Canon P is a damn good camera, very much like a Leica.
The Canon P is a damn good camera, very much like a Leica.
Sure, they are both rangefinders, but the shutter and its shape make it very un-leica like IMO.
Bill58
Native Texan
Just a little advise....
Maybe the best Leica right now is a Canon P.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/pho.../3-canon-ps26amp-3b-2-100mm-ltms-lenses/cat/3
The Canon P is a damn good camera, very much like a Leica.
Maybe the Ps/ L1s prices will go back up again! I sure hope so.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I remember when I was a starving student that needed a car. Damn those BMW guys for pricing their car so out of my reach.
dallard
Well-known
I can't believe that Maybach doesn't have a student discount that makes it as cheap as a '94 Taurus.I remember when I was a starving student that needed a car. Damn those BMW guys for pricing their car so out of my reach.
ray*j*gun
Veteran
I wouldn't have been able to buy an M at these prices either. Although it seems LTM's are down.
hipsterdufus
Photographer?
Deals are there; just remember that an M body is only worth what you're willing to pay for it. Don't just get one because you're worried that prices are going to go up more.
OTOH (shameless plug), I can't seem to find a goggled Summaron for my new M3 for the life of me. If anyone has one, see my WTT/WTB ad in my signature!
OTOH (shameless plug), I can't seem to find a goggled Summaron for my new M3 for the life of me. If anyone has one, see my WTT/WTB ad in my signature!
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Deals are there; just remember that an M body is only worth what you're willing to pay for it. Don't just get one because you're worried that prices are going to go up more.
OTOH (shameless plug), I can't seem to find a goggled Summaron for my new M3 for the life of me. If anyone has one, see my WTT/WTB ad in my signature!
Adorama has a goggled 3.5 Summaron for $349.00. Hurry-up.
Cal
meanstreetshooter
Established
M5 price comparison
M5 price comparison
I paid $600.00 for mine in 09' from Brooklyn Camera. They rated it as an 8 due to edge wear but the true rate is 8- because the previous owners name is professionally engraved on the back. I found this rate grade in a photo book which is not at my fingertips to credit the author. He believes that any visible engraving lowers the grade to a minus (-) which I think makes some sense.
The most important aspect is the camera works fine for its age. No service records came along; the only provenance was the engraved name. I do think it had some service as it operates smoothly and the meter works. I just can't get used to that shutter release.
M5 price comparison
Still can't believe I paid $550 for my M5 from Adorama last year. They even had one up in worse condition for $800 only a week later.
I paid $600.00 for mine in 09' from Brooklyn Camera. They rated it as an 8 due to edge wear but the true rate is 8- because the previous owners name is professionally engraved on the back. I found this rate grade in a photo book which is not at my fingertips to credit the author. He believes that any visible engraving lowers the grade to a minus (-) which I think makes some sense.
The most important aspect is the camera works fine for its age. No service records came along; the only provenance was the engraved name. I do think it had some service as it operates smoothly and the meter works. I just can't get used to that shutter release.
brokencivilian
Established
Just a little advise....
Maybe the best Leica right now is a Canon P.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/pho.../3-canon-ps26amp-3b-2-100mm-ltms-lenses/cat/3
The Canon P is a damn good camera, very much like a Leica.
I already have a leica iiif so I'm not going to settle for anything less than another leica.
I remember when I was a starving student that needed a car. Damn those BMW guys for pricing their car so out of my reach.
I'm only a starving student for another month and them I'm a college graduate and can start saving up for a leica. So price is no issue, the only issue is time.
I would like one as soon as I could get it, but in reality I'tt probably be a couple months before I can even pick up a body. Then I'll sell all my nikon/bronica/canon gear to pay for a lens. Simple as that.
Well, when I was in your position (almost), a new graduate, one of the things I did want was a "good" camera, and specifically a Leica. I didn't buy a Leica, would have been an M4-p and I do wish I did. But, I took a lot of really nice photos with my old SRTs until I bought an EOS 10s, and then for another bunch of years until I cured my rangefinder want.
So I think you do have to be patient and follow your plan.
A good P though is an excellent camera, just like a Leica.
So I think you do have to be patient and follow your plan.
A good P though is an excellent camera, just like a Leica.
brokencivilian
Established
Well, when I was in your position (almost), a new graduate, one of the things I did want was a "good" camera, and specifically a Leica. I didn't buy a Leica, would have been an M4-p and I do wish I did. But, I took a lot of really nice photos with my old SRTs until I bought an EOS 10s, and then for another bunch of years until I cured my rangefinder want.
So I think you do have to be patient and follow your plan.
A good P though is an excellent camera, just like a Leica.
I already have a few excellent cameras. So buying a leica isn't just me looking for a 'good' camera. It me wanting to buy something and only use that thing for the rest of my life.. Even though I have good cameras already I still buy and collect many. But the way i see it is if I get my dream cam, then there is no reason to buy others.. If that makes any sence
But the way i see it is if I get my dream cam, then there is no reason to buy others.. If that makes any sence
Nope, that makes no sense at all.
rogerzilla
Well-known
I almost bought an M6 about 15 years ago but was put off by the size of the thing; they look bigger in black chrome, for some reason.
I used LTMs for years, but they are fairly slow to shoot with. Then Ken Rockwell's write-up convinced me to buy an M3 and you know what? He was right. Then I bought an M2 as well, which is very nearly as good although the frame counter isn't as nice and I wouldn't much want to use the 90mm lens with it. An M2 and an LTM Summaron 35/3.5 makes a wonderfully portable combination.
I'm glad I didn't buy that M6, because I'd probably never have tried the M3 and M2. Metering is neither here nor there for me, since I've used a hand meter since about 1997 and it's far more accurate.
I used LTMs for years, but they are fairly slow to shoot with. Then Ken Rockwell's write-up convinced me to buy an M3 and you know what? He was right. Then I bought an M2 as well, which is very nearly as good although the frame counter isn't as nice and I wouldn't much want to use the 90mm lens with it. An M2 and an LTM Summaron 35/3.5 makes a wonderfully portable combination.
I'm glad I didn't buy that M6, because I'd probably never have tried the M3 and M2. Metering is neither here nor there for me, since I've used a hand meter since about 1997 and it's far more accurate.
Zorkiiglaza
Established
I too noticed the lack of Leica equipment at KEH. Its certainly not the candy shop it was a year or two ago. I asked one of their workers when I placed an order a month ago. He said people are buying up the lenses to use with the new digital cameras. That might explain the lenses but what about the camera bodies.
A few years ago when I was overseas there were lots of old German cameras on the market and then the next year none. I was told that they were bought up by rich Chinese business men.
A few years ago when I was overseas there were lots of old German cameras on the market and then the next year none. I was told that they were bought up by rich Chinese business men.
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