M Lenses on the X-Pro 1, a few results

kbg32 said:
For once, I would love to see someone take "real" pictures. "Real" world usage. Pictures they are serious about, other then the usual test shots of inanimate objects and walls.
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Give people some time... it is a brand new camera. Do you complete a body of significant serious work with a brand new camera within days of receiving it?
 
"My main observation so far between the two has been colours….of course as stated before, its very difficult to compare RAW files with JPEGS…..so I’m not going to dwell on it just yet….more tests to come as soon as I can get RAW access from the Fuji.

You can clearly see from these samples that the colours on the Leica M9 are far better, much more natural and muted and representative of the natural light when out shooting, the Fuji images are excellent, just need the white balance tweaked for each one (I haven’t touched white balance on any of these samples)."

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He's not going to dwell on color, but then he dwells on color...'the M9 is obviously better', because he's been able to tweak them.

If he really wanted to tweak the Fuji white balance, it's pretty simple to do that in SilkyPix.
And so it goes...
 
UPDATE: I made some comments about the white balance on the Fuji not being so great later in this post – I retract that statement as I had the camera set to VELVIA mode, so the colours are naturally boosted, making skintones much yellower than the M9…an unfair comparison, so please disregard anything about colours in the post for now, updated images coming soon with ASTIA/PROVIA film settings and RAW once available.
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He has actually recently posted an update clarifying that right at the beginning of the article. Good for him, many would not have bothered.
 
The mere fact that someone out there has tried this with an adapter (even if it's the non-fuji adapter) and it seems to work fairly well gives me hope. The obvious comparisons to the M8/M9 will occur. I, personally, would prefer the Fuji if it works out to be decent 🙂

Cheers,
Dave
 
The X-Pro1 has a fantastic sensor, probably better than any full frame sensor available today. This may be enough reason to want to adapt various lenses to it, but the manual focus process is a bit tricky, and slow. If people want to use adapted wide angles with zone focus that is a different matter, but anyone who wants to use M lenses and thinks it will be easy to get pinpoint focus quickly are mistaken.

It's my recommendation that people should buy the Fuji lenses. They are superb, reasonably priced, well-built and have AF...which is how this camera is designed to be used.

Just my 2 dollars (inflation, ya know.)
 
digitalintrigue said:
The X-Pro1 has a fantastic sensor, probably better than any full frame sensor available today. This may be enough reason to want to adapt various lenses to it, but the manual focus process is a bit tricky, and slow. If people want to use adapted wide angles with zone focus that is a different matter, but anyone who wants to use M lenses and thinks it will be easy to get pinpoint focus quickly are mistaken.

It's my recommendation that people should buy the Fuji lenses. They are superb, reasonably priced, well-built and have AF...which is how this camera is designed to be used.

Just my 2 dollars (inflation, ya know.)
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"Easy" is a matter of practice 🙂
Becoming accustomed to how a camera works - its quirks, its strengths, its weaknesses is all part of the learning process.

Part of the problem with "us" nowadays is no one wants to take the time to actually learn how to use the (or any) camera effectively and, inevitably, they write it off to "bad design", "lousy lenses" etc. etc. etc. We've all seen the posts in various fora in which it's claimed that "This would have been a great camera if only . . . . . (insert poster's dream of the perfect camera here)" - and all this happens before anyone has the camera in their HANDS !! 😀

I'm willing to wait, see what the camera is like, try the Fuji M mount adapter and see how it performs with the M-Mount lenses. If it's reasonable to me, and I can make it work, for myself, then it'll be a successful camera in my books - internet prognosticators, pixel peepers, and fondlers be damned !! 😀 😀 😀

Cheers,
Dave
 
dcsang said:
We've all seen the posts in various fora in which it's claimed that "This would have been a great camera if only . . . . . (insert poster's dream of the perfect camera here)" - and all this happens before anyone has the camera in their HANDS !! 😀
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Yes, it is important to know what you want and concentrate on what a camera offers instead of what it does not. Perfect dream cameras do not exist.
 
dcsang said:
The mere fact that someone out there has tried this with an adapter (even if it's the non-fuji adapter) and it seems to work fairly well gives me hope. The obvious comparisons to the M8/M9 will occur. I, personally, would prefer the Fuji if it works out to be decent 🙂

Cheers,
Dave
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digitalintrigue said:
The X-Pro1 has a fantastic sensor, probably better than any full frame sensor available today. This may be enough reason to want to adapt various lenses to it, but the manual focus process is a bit tricky, and slow. If people want to use adapted wide angles with zone focus that is a different matter, but anyone who wants to use M lenses and thinks it will be easy to get pinpoint focus quickly are mistaken.

It's my recommendation that people should buy the Fuji lenses. They are superb, reasonably priced, well-built and have AF...which is how this camera is designed to be used.

Just my 2 dollars (inflation, ya know.)
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The f8 reviewer had this to say, which I think the MF crowd would certainly find encouraging.

With the Fuji, there is no focus confirmation, but there is the zoom button which allows very easy focus confirmation at extreme magnification…if anything it zooms too much for my liking. Personally I found it a lot easier to use just the EVF (i normally hate EVF viewfinders) to focus it and found I could do it quickly and accurately most of the time, even wide open was easier than I thought….this gives a slight advantage over the M9, as with that of course it is always manual rangefinder focus with available light…which is fine during daylight, but much more difficult in low light, the EVF on the Fuji brightened up the scene and made it relatively simple to nail the focus.
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jsrockit said:
Give people some time... it is a brand new camera. Do you complete a body of significant serious work with a brand new camera within days of receiving it?
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No, but I take "serious" imagery with it. How much "time" does one need? Go out and shoot. Leave the brick walls for banging your head against.

Chill.
 
Luke_Y said:
With the Fuji, there is no focus confirmation, but there is the zoom button which allows very easy focus confirmation at extreme magnification…if anything it zooms too much for my liking. Personally I found it a lot easier to use just the EVF (i normally hate EVF viewfinders) to focus it and found I could do it quickly and accurately most of the time, even wide open was easier than I thought….this gives a slight advantage over the M9, as with that of course it is always manual rangefinder focus with available light…which is fine during daylight, but much more difficult in low light, the EVF on the Fuji brightened up the scene and made it relatively simple to nail the focus. .
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Isn't this basically what everybody has been saying about mirrorless cameras since the G1?

The Fuji lenses for this X-Pro1 system look excellent so far, with more to come.
 
kbg32 said:
No, but I take "serious" imagery with it. How much "time" does one need? Go out and shoot. Leave the brick walls for banging your head against.

Chill.
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Well, I haven't seen any brick wall photos from the Fuji.

Sure, you CAN make great photos right away, but it is higly unlikely that you'll have a serious body of work within a week or two. There was the same complaint about the X100 when it came out... until time passed and people used it for serious work.
 
jsrockit said:
Well, I haven't seen any brick wall photos from the Fuji.

Sure, you CAN make great photos right away, but it is higly unlikely that you'll have a serious body of work within a week or two. There was the same complaint about the X100 when it came out... until time passed and people used it for serious work.
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No one mentioned a body of work or great images but you. It would be interesting to see serious images, other then the usual crap - coffee mugs, walls (brick or otherwise). Real life, real situations. Whatever. Isn't that what people do? Not too hard really, to do from the get go.
 
kbg32 said:
No one mentioned a body of work or great images but you. It would be interesting to see serious images, other then the usual crap - coffee mugs, walls (brick or otherwise). Real life, real situations. Whatever. Isn't that what people do? Not too hard really, to do from the get go.
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I agree with you. I'm sorry if it isn't coming off that way...but I'd rather see real life as well... and honestly, the blogs I've seen have done this somewhat. Not a lot of great photos yet, but certainly photos outside of tests if you look around.
 
Here is the beginning of what appears to be a serious body of work with an X1 Pro in the studio and in the field with more to come....

http://zackarias.com/blog/

There is a couple of reasons why I want this camera and none of them are very technical. From what I have seen high iso and IQ is stellar, and the lenses are great no real need to sweat the technical mumbo jumbo. So no need to worry then, but what I really love is the user interface. Great JPEGs with a Quick menu, and OMG a shutter dial and aperture ring!!
 
N.delaRua said:
Here is the beginning of what appears to be a serious body of work with an X1 Pro in the studio and in the field with more to come....

http://zackarias.com/blog/

There is a couple of reasons why I want this camera and none of them are very technical.
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Well those snaps are pretty freaking awesome. Sorry, let me mop up my drool. . . .My initial determination to wait a year and to maintain a stoic skepticism is crumbling. Think I'll go out with a 6x17 back attached to a Linhoff Tech IV and use it to pound tent pegs for a while . . . OK, all better. TMX100 stand development in Rodinal anyone?

Seriously though I really like the look of the snaps from this Fuji chip. It has the "clean" look I associate with my D3 and 105 DC lens.
 
Yes, the Fuji sensor is amazing. Well, at least it is in my opinion. 😉

So is the 105 DC, which you can use on the X-Pro1 with the Kipon adapter.
 
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