Avenon 28/3.5, Sankyo Koki 28/3.5, screw mounts, these are pancakey
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
I love my all manual, scale-focus Petri Color 35.
However lens is 40mm focal length.
Easily fits in a pocket but all-metal so it's relatively heavy.
The various Rollei 35 models would also fill the bill but they too have 40mm lenses.
Chris
However lens is 40mm focal length.
Easily fits in a pocket but all-metal so it's relatively heavy.
The various Rollei 35 models would also fill the bill but they too have 40mm lenses.
Chris
Yams
Member
Yeah it's one I've considered but the 40mm lens isn't for me.
If I'm going with a rangefinder it'll be my M6
That 28/2 is a beauty of a lens, it might have been perfect were it not for the price which I was expecting to be high. Maybe if I save up I'll get it but I'm not totally sold on the rendering it has wide open. Maybe if I drop £800-£1100 on one I might grow to like it...
Yeah I've looked at the 21mm version of the Avenon because I figure if I'm going wide I might as well go really wide
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
My recently acquired Bessa L with 25mm Snapshot Skopar is pretty compact and very light.
It is uncomplicated and quite pleasant to use. The lens is superb.
The Bessa L body weighs 11.3 oz. The 25mm Snaphot Skopar weighs a mere 3.2 oz.
Your Leica M6 body alone weighs almost 20 oz.
Chris
It is uncomplicated and quite pleasant to use. The lens is superb.
The Bessa L body weighs 11.3 oz. The 25mm Snaphot Skopar weighs a mere 3.2 oz.
Your Leica M6 body alone weighs almost 20 oz.
Chris
Yams
Member
To be honest weight has never been an issue for me with any camera (including 5x4's and RB67's) so having the equivalent of a bag of sugar with some biscuits on top hanging round my neck or in my pocket isn't even a consideration. The 25mm has been one my mind for a while but I'm unsure I'll be in love with the way it renders so I'll be looking for alternatives for now.
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
25mm CV Snapshot Skopar
25mm CV Snapshot Skopar
There are plenty of gorgeous images on this and other forums made with this little lens.
Chris
25mm CV Snapshot Skopar
There are plenty of gorgeous images on this and other forums made with this little lens.
Chris
Yams
Member
I'm sure there are but I'm more attracted to the Avenon/Kobalux 21/2.8 or the Russar MP-2 or the Ricoh GR lenses. I like the Voigtlander 25mm but there's just something about the Voigtlander/Cosina stuff that makes me prefer other lenses.
mpaniagua
Newby photographer
You really are hard to please 
Just kidding
Marcelo
Just kidding
Marcelo
besk
Well-known
For compactness the Leica CL can't be beat. The viewfinder is pretty close to the coverage of a 28mm lens. And it has onboard metering if you want.
Next up would be a Leica or ?? screwmount and finder.
Next up would be a Leica or ?? screwmount and finder.
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
Someday, way off in the future I'd like to have a Retina II, but not yet my Friend...not yet...
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
Find some broken lensed compact camera with a working winder mechanism and stick an Industar 69 on it. That would just be a cool Frankenstein's monster of a camera. Super pocketable as the lens is almost flat. It IS a half frame lens but it almost covers 35mm completely with some mechanical vignetting.
Phil Forrest
Phil Forrest
valdas
Veteran
archive59
Established
The Fed Zarya is a viewfinder only version of the Fed 2 that takes LTM lenses. This could be a cheaper route than a Leica or CV body.
TerryMcC
Established
If you wanted to stay with the Leica try the Lomography Minitar 1 Art lens? It has scale focus and is a pancake lens.
Yams
Member
I take Skopar 21/4 over Russar any day... and not because of "just something"
What is it about the Skopar you would have over the Russar? I personally prefer the fact the Russar is a bit flatter physically and the fact the older ones seem to give highlights a good amount of glow. Plus I'm a sucker for these old Russian lenses but that's not to say I would be unhappy with either, they're both great lenses and pretty much exactly what I want, however, for a similar amount of money (maybe a Skopar with the finder would be a bit more) I would prefer the lens I really want. Plus if I'm being reeeally picky I prefer that the Russars are 20mm instead of 21mm haha
I think if I was going for another rangefinder, as many have suggested, I would want something like a Leica standard or iiiF for the slow speeds. The CL is a good suggestion though but, as I've mentioned, I'd like to stick with my M6 and not get another rangefinder if possible and find a scale focus camera instead.
I've seen the Industar on full frame and that vignetting is something else but that's a really good idea actually. Possibly some sort of combination of the Petri Color 35 and that lens would be good; thankyou!
They're beautiful cameras and I love the 50/2 lenses on them. The only thing that gets me is that the door takes up a lot of grip space on the right hand side of the camera meaning that I feel as though I can't get a good enough grip on it.
You really are hard to please
Just kidding
Marcelo
I just know what I want in a camera but I don't know what camera has it all in one package haha
Yams
Member
That's true it might be cheaper but I already have an M6 and the Zarya isn't the best looking camera ever.... thankyou for the suggest though!
It's a good lens and I enjoyed the way it looked when I was using an LC-A but if I'm paying that much for a lens I would rather pay a bit more and get a wide lens because I already have a 35mm and the Minitar is only 3mm wider.
valdas
Veteran
Well, I guess it is a matter of taste. If low contrast is an advantage to you, sure, Russar is the one. I don't go for "glow" either
Skopar - faster and sharper wide open. I think it is cheaper than Russar as well (or similar price).Yams
Member
Well, I guess it is a matter of taste. If low contrast is an advantage to you, sure, Russar is the one. I don't go for "glow" either
All good points but I'm afraid I prefer the Russar for the glow and the slight softness wide open plus it's only a stop darker and I'm not getting it for low light so I'm sure I'll survive with 5.6. As for it being cheaper, I can't disagree there although, on eBay at least, the cheapest Russar+finder I can find is only £10 more than the cheapest Skopar+finder... We'll just have to agree to disagree!