airfrogusmc
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One of the 'pep talks' I have been going back to is this short Jay Maisel video. Has been very helpful to me when I come out here: https://vimeo.com/116692462
Thanks for posting that. I had not seen that and yes we can all draw inspiration form that. Heres some more thought and the last part of what Jay is taking about.
"When subject matter is forced to fit into preconceived patterns, there can be no freshness of vision. Following rules of composition can only lead to a tedious repetition of pictorial cliches." - Edward Weston
"There are no rules and regulations for perfect composition. If there were we would be able to put all the information into a computer and would come out with a masterpiece. We know that's impossible. You have to compose by the seat of your pants." - Arnold Newman
"There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs." - Ansel Adams
"And in not learning the rules, I was free. I always say, you're either defined by the medium or you redefine the medium in terms of your needs." - Duane Michals
"And if you can find out something about the laws of your own growth and vision as well as those of photography you may be able to relate the two, create an object that has a life of its own, which transcends craftsmanship. That is a long road, and because it must be your own road nobody can teach it to you or find it for you. There are no shortcuts, no rules." - Paul Strand
"Photography is not a sport. It has no rules. Everything must be dared and tried!" - Bill Brandt
"I came from the outside, the rules of photography didn't interest me... "-William Klein
"...... a photograph can look any way. Or, there's no way a photograph has to look (beyond being an illusion of a literal description). Or, there are no external or abstract or preconceived rules of design that can apply to still photographs. " Garry Winogrand
and maybe my favorite "......so called “composition” becomes a personal thing, to be developed along with technique, as a personal way of seeing." - Edward Weston
Vince Lupo
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One of my favourite things Jay says in that video -- the camera and its damn histogram!
Dektol Dan
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Well,
Well,
That's how I shoot, BUT knowing what makes a composition is necessary for editing the best from the better.
Well,
That's how I shoot, BUT knowing what makes a composition is necessary for editing the best from the better.
icebear
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One of the 'pep talks' I have been going back to is this short Jay Maisel video. Has been very helpful to me when I come out here: https://vimeo.com/116692462
ROFL, thanks for sharing ...
At 2:33min. " no obligation to the damn histogram"
airfrogusmc
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That's how I shoot, BUT knowing what makes a composition is necessary for editing the best from the better.
A good comp to who ? Wouldn't that be as Weston stated? A comp that looks like it was composed by that particular photographer would be a good comp. Whether it fits into a pre conceived idea of what is good and what we as photographers or viewers should be doing like some kind of rule? Instead it should be does it work or not. Not because it fits with things like RoTs. In my opinion things like RoTs ruin so many photographers and the reason why everything looks the same these days. I agree with Winograd, Jay and all the other whose quotes I posted.
Vince Lupo
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Vince Lupo
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squirrel$$$bandit
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I really dig the stone wall one, Vince
Vince Lupo
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I really dig the stone wall one, Vince
Many thanks -- it's the remains of a church just on the outskirts of Santa Rosa. Shot it a few hours ago.
Vince Lupo
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35photo
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I may reshoot this tomorrow, under different light:
Untitled by Vince Lupo, on Flickr
Yeah, I would if possible..
Vince Lupo
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Vince Lupo
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2WK
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Hey Vince, my suggestion is to keep both. Your longer lenses and definetly the Noctilux use with the SL. Shoot the wides with the 246. Great versatility, and who knows...you may want to shoot color someday...or a client request. Cheers!
Vince Lupo
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Hey Vince, my suggestion is to keep both. Your longer lenses and definetly the Noctilux use with the SL. Shoot the wides with the 246. Great versatility, and who knows...you may want to shoot color someday...or a client request. Cheers!
Well if I want to stay married to my loving wife, I probably shouldn't do that. No, it's going to have to be one or the other, and I think I've pretty much made my decision, though I haven't yet seen any comparison prints yet.
As far as shooting colour for clients goes, I use my D4 and D800 for that.
Vince Lupo
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Vince Lupo
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Another attempt at the church shot - not sure that this one is any better.

Untitled by Vince Lupo, on Flickr

Untitled by Vince Lupo, on Flickr
squirrel$$$bandit
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I think the shadows add something to it—I prefer it slightly to the other one.
35photo
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Yeah, I like this version better. The shadows give depth..
Another attempt at the church shot - not sure that this one is any better.
Untitled by Vince Lupo, on Flickr
Vince Lupo
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Not really a fan of the metal drum and its shadow, but I wasn't about to move it.
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