More Jupiter-11 Photos

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Hy everybody, therse are shots from my second roll with the Jupiter-11 (mounted on my Bessa R): I think it's a nice lens, with a good OOF and enough sharpness.
Take a look and let me know your opinions, please

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three boats
 
Unusual subjects for a long lens, but you've pulled it off -- and the J-11 is clearly a good one.

Sorry, but I see no "oats" in the third picture. A -- sorry -- wild guess. Did you perhaps mean "boats"?
 
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Not to mention a strange choice of camera for a 135mm lens test. Did you guess the compositions or did you have an accessory viewfinder?
 
Hi Payasam, why do say say the subjects are "unusual for a long lens" ?

The Jupiter-11 was "nearly mint" (the lenses are mint): the man who sold it to me said it bought it 15 years ago in Warsavia (Poland), and for 15 years nobody wanted to buy it...

CapitalK, I was searching for a Jupiter-9 for my Kiev II, but found this nice lens, and decided to try it: it's a good glass, the only complaint is that the Bessa has a very short rangefinder base, so you must pay a lot of attemption when focusing at short distances: that's why a made this strange choice... For the composition I use a russian multi-finder: if you don't forget to use the parallax correction, it's a good device

Ciao
Franco
 
Franco, I think most people would use a wide or a normal for such subjects. More of the boats, for example, would be in focus. Perspective is a matter of preference: shorter focal lengths will make near objects large and far objects small, as against the foreshortening that you got with the J-11. I'd use a long lens for a single boat but a shorter one for many boats. Preference, not any kind of rule.
 
Franco, very nice examples from your J-11. Don't bother too much with what most folks would do photographically, unless that is, you want you pics to look run-of-the-mill. If people all photographed the same, we wouldn't have had an A. Adams, E. Weston, A. Leibovitz or R. Avedon, etc... etc...

I like the way a longer lens compresses the image and would have liked to have your first pic done in a wider f-stop with the focus isolating the middle oat from front and back oats more. Using a longer lens is a great way to pull out the subject from the crowd, so to speak, and put the attention of the viewer on what you're seeing, that is, where it belongs.

I haven't used J-11 with any colour film yet, mostly preferring b&w in all things, but seeing your examples has shown me I have not given this lens all its due. Good stuff, I hope to see more.

Eli
 
I passed up one of these the other week at a very good price. Now I am kicking myself. Like the perspective, just a little more compression than a 90mm but not as much as a 135.

Very nice...
 
eli griggs said:
Franco, very nice examples from your J-11. Don't bother too much with what most folks would do photographically, unless that is, you want you pics to look run-of-the-mill. If people all photographed the same, we wouldn't have had an A. Adams, E. Weston, A. Leibovitz or R. Avedon, etc... etc...

I like the way a longer lens compresses the image and would have liked to have your first pic done in a wider f-stop with the focus isolating the middle boat from front and back boats more. Using a longer lens is a great way to pull out the subject from the crowd, so to speak, and put the attention of the viewer on what you're seeing, that is, where it belongs.

Eli
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Thank you, Eli, in that shot my goal was to see the focus go slowly from the in-focus foreground to the out-of-focus background, not to isolate any particular boat. Where I live that scene is usual, so i have seen a lot of conventional shots made with short focals, so I decided to play a different game, this time, and i like the results
 
Hi Franco,

Through my eyes, my glasses, my computer screen, I see a very slight soft touch by the lens, which reminds me very much an alike effect by the Zuiko 135mm. By no means I will say the images are soft, but that the lens have a kind of soft signature I saw at my Zuiko 135, and which makes both of them specially suitable for portraits.

Now I have always wondered about how this Soviet lens performs, and thank you for your input. More input will be appreciated.

Lastly, do you mind to tell what was the film ?

Cheers,
Ruben
 
ruben said:
Hi Franco,

Through my eyes, my glasses, my computer screen, I see a very slight soft touch by the lens, which reminds me very much an alike effect by the Zuiko 135mm. By no means I will say the images are soft, but that the lens have a kind of soft signature I saw at my Zuiko 135, and which makes both of them specially suitable for portraits.

Now I have always wondered about how this Soviet lens performs, and thank you for your input. More input will be appreciated.

Lastly, do you mind to tell what was the film ?

Cheers,
Ruben
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I brought the sample scanned images into Irfanview and they sharpened up quite nicely. Assuming that these images have undoubtedly lost some quality in the scanning process I have to think the lens is very good.
 
I like the shots. Now that it has been pointed out, I like how the long lens affected perspective with the little cafe tables and umbrella. I think it's a very nice shot :)

Where I live that scene is usual
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That's another thing I appreciate. Where I live, that scene looks "picturesque" lol I was at an art fair a few weeks ago, and a guy was selling pictures he took in Italy over the summer. It is very likely in Italy where he took the pictures everyone asks why he wants pictures of suh ugly scenes like a woman taking out her garbage, while here people wanted to know more about the woman, what she was throwing away, did she live there or was she working for someone, how beautiful it is there, how the colors are so vibrant and appealing, how lucky she is for living there, etc. etc. :)

Honestly, though, I wish more people would just do "lens tests" around their neighborhood more often. I really enjoy seeing the daily scenes of places all over. Normal is good, seeing as "normal" is different everywhere :)
 
ruben said:
Hi Franco,

Through my eyes, my glasses, my computer screen, I see a very slight soft touch by the lens, which reminds me very much an alike effect by the Zuiko 135mm. By no means I will say the images are soft, but that the lens have a kind of soft signature I saw at my Zuiko 135, and which makes both of them specially suitable for portraits.

Now I have always wondered about how this Soviet lens performs, and thank you for your input. More input will be appreciated.

Lastly, do you mind to tell what was the film ?

Cheers,
Ruben
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Ciao Ruben, I like the "soft touch" of the lens, and when I scan the negs, I always try not to "oversharp" them... Just personal opinion, of course.

The film is Fuji Superia 200 iso, I'm just learnig how to scan it... (I usually go by slides or black and white)

Franco
 
40oz said:
I like the shots. Now that it has been pointed out, I like how the long lens affected perspective with the little cafe tables and umbrella. I think it's a very nice shot :)



That's another thing I appreciate. Where I live, that scene looks "picturesque" lol I was at an art fair a few weeks ago, and a guy was selling pictures he took in Italy over the summer. It is very likely in Italy where he took the pictures everyone asks why he wants pictures of suh ugly scenes like a woman taking out her garbage, while here people wanted to know more about the woman, what she was throwing away, did she live there or was she working for someone, how beautiful it is there, how the colors are so vibrant and appealing, how lucky she is for living there, etc. etc. :)

Honestly, though, I wish more people would just do "lens tests" around their neighborhood more often. I really enjoy seeing the daily scenes of places all over. Normal is good, seeing as "normal" is different everywhere :)
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yes, of course: the idea of picturesque change from country to country, in Arabia a camel is "normal", but picturesque if you are a tourist from Europe...
;-)
 
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