New 18 mp Nikon coming in Sept.

I'm impressed that it 's going to have a 35 mm full frame sensor which takes lenses made for crop cameras.
 
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Chris101 said:
With all due respect, this 'secret friend with inside connections' bit has been done to death.
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Chris,

Beating to death, if not done with a stinking wet rotten sock, is not enough.
 
You guys are a hoot. I frankly don't care whether you believe me or my friend. I'm just sharing what I know with you, which is what such sites are for. Take it for what it's worth. If you think about it, this product makes eminently good sense. A full frame sensor for improved S/N (that's what it's for - not sheer resolution) and backwards compatible with every lens Nikon has ever made. That is a winner. For those of you happy with 10 mp sensors - are you still runiing DOS on your 286's? Remember, sensor technoloy obey's Moore's law. As I've said before - we have no idea - NO IDEA - what cameras will look like or even be capable of in 5 years.

/T
 
I'm thrilled with my 4mp sensor in my 6 year old camera, and I still run punch cards in my 3,000 square foot mainframe. It took me 6 hours to write this post.
 
Well I sure am interested, and thankyou for sharing this information with us.

I like nikons, but I used canon DSLRs at the moment. The canons are very good. I would love for nikon to come out with a 5d equivalent at the same price.... Zeiss primes here I come...


But really, I suspect they will be releasing the new pro spec camera this year, I really do. It is getting late in the game for them, canons destroying the professional level sales, and nikon know what they have to do. The fact is, theres nothing wrong with the crop sensor itself, but the inconveniences it causes are most annoying. I'm running an olympus eyepiece magnification accessory on my 30d because the viewfinder is pathetic. Like looking through a little tunnel. The d200 isn't much better either.

Also, I like using my 24mm lens or 28mm lens or 35mm lens for its intended use, not as a standard focal length on the crop sensor. That irritates the crap out of me.

full frame cameras can have larger photosite receptors, and therefor the quality of the image is much better. its like having a MF negative and a 35mm negative.

Sonys next PRO level Alpha camera will be using a full frame or near full frame sensor, nikons been using sony sensors here and there for a while, my r-d1 uses a sony sensor and I love it!

Do the math.
 
igoesmyth said:
18 MP is fine but a full frame (24mmx36mm) sensor that will not vignette a DX lens is mathmatically and physically immpossible.
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DX would be supported in a high speed crop mode. You may get 10MP at something like 8ps. They are already doing this with the 2Dx, except the crop mode is x2

igoesmyth said:
Nikon gets it's sensors from SONY.
Sony does not make a FF sensor.
So where would Nikon be getting it?? Kodak?
You won't have to worry about saving for soon as this is a fantasy.
david
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How do you know what Sony has up their sleeve?

Everyone at the high-end is moving towards bigger sensors, as the megapixel count goes up. There really isn't much choice in this. You can't cram more than 12-13MP in to an APS size chip and still get good dynamic range and low noise. To a large extend image quality is dependent on the size of the individual receptor.

Personally I want to see everyone concentrate on expanding dynamic range and get out of the MP contest. Give me a DSLR with a chip that delivers a useable range of 12 stops or more at 12.8MP and I'll be giddy. Right now (with the exception of the FujiFilm S5 PRO) we are stuck at 8-9 stops.
 
MadMan2k said:
I'm thrilled with my 4mp sensor in my 6 year old camera, and I still run punch cards in my 3,000 square foot mainframe. It took me 6 hours to write this post.
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Sums it all up - just brilliant :)
 
fdigital said:
Also, I like using my 24mm lens or 28mm lens or 35mm lens for its intended use, not as a standard focal length on the crop sensor. That irritates the crap out of me.
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You can say that again. Personally I would Like to see a D300 with FF sensor so I can make full use of my old glass especially the wides. The D200 is getting old and the prices seem to be dropping. I wonder if that means anything?

Bob
 
Tuolumne said:
It apparently has a switch that flips it back and forth from full-frame mode to 1.5x crop-factor mode. I assume that means it would have lower resolution in the 1.5x crop factor mode.

/T
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Right. And not only does it crop the sensor-generated image, but also the
mirror and viewfinder with that switch.

Will it produce pictures similar in quality than MF ? :eek: :D
 
I suppose an 18MP Nikon is interesting, in an 'academic' sort of way, but personally I won't be considering buying a 'D3' or whatever it's going to be called. Part of the reason the pro Nikons cost so much is because they're built like tanks: not so much to do with image quality at all. I think I will wait for whatever the upgraded 'equivalent' of the D80 is. I'm very happy with the image quality from my D200 now, and even that isprobably more camera than I really need.
 
Tuolumne said:
I was talking to a friend today. Well connected in the Nikon world from previous industry experience. He was telling me about a new high end Nikon coming this September. 18 megapixels, full frame 35mm sensor with no crop factor, backward compatible with lenses made for 1.5x crop factor. I love my D200. I guess I better start saving for this baby.

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Ah, the old rumour with a June/July release date is replaced by a new one now?
Didn't check the dpreview forums lately :)
 
NB23 said:
Chris,

Beating to death, if not done with a stinking wet rotten sock, is not enough.
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Hey! Let me out of this, I'm a peacefull mind and don't take part in beatings :D
 
Tuolumne said:
Remember, sensor technoloy obey's Moore's law.
/T
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Moore's law is about getting more into less, i.E. smaller chips with more tranistors.
Making bigger chips is not covered by this.
 
I work in camera store (Nikon dealer) and my Nikon rep assures me that there will be TWO new DSLR's before the end of the year, one to be released very soon and the other in the fall. I believe we'll see a D200 replacement first followed by a D3 later on. Only time will tell
 
Too late for me- Nikon dropped the ball with the first generation of DSLR's that wouldn't meter with Ai or AiS lenses. I couldn't justify a new camera AND new lenses. Leica and Zeiss have my business now.

Seems that if Nikon is to survive they'll have to admit that Canon was right to go full frame and continue what WAS great about the Nikon system- the nearly complete backward compatability of the F mount.
 
sepiareverb said:
Too late for me- Nikon dropped the ball with the first generation of DSLR's that wouldn't meter with Ai or AiS lenses. I couldn't justify a new camera AND new lenses. Leica and Zeiss have my business now.

Seems that if Nikon is to survive they'll have to admit that Canon was right to go full frame and continue what WAS great about the Nikon system- the nearly complete backward compatability of the F mount.
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Huh? The first generation of Nikon DSLRs *are* compatible with AI and AIS glass including metering. I use mostly MF Nikkors on my D1.
 
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