New: KODAK Super 8

[DominikDUK]

The article in the wsj journals mentions Filmschools, pros and consumer as target market as does pretty much every blog and forum I have read so far. But you are missing the commercial and the wedding market (quiet a few wedding filmers now also offer super8 movies),until the Logmar or very high cost refurbished Beaulieu super8 Filmmaking wasn't really an option for anything more serious this has changed. The Kodak camera will also have a bigger image than standard Super 8 it will use the Max8 Format. You can also be pretty sure that Kodak has done their market research and know about the size of the Super8 and E6 market and they seem to think that Super8 will be more successful. Super8 is also a market in which they will have close to a monopoly (Foma, Wittner respooled Fuji, Kodak, Agfa are small and won't really affect them) unlike the E6 market with a big company like Fuji which rules the E6 market.

And again it is not up to Kodak Eastman to reintroduce E6 Still film it is up to Kodak Alaris. EK is not responsible for still film they only concern themselves with movie film and graphic applications that's their business and if the movie business fails you can say goodbye to every Kodak Alaris film on the market.

 

[fireblade]

As much as super 8 may be nostalgic, i've been using 4K and it can't be beat....yet.

 

[JP Owens]

There must be some really wealthy students at film schools. 90 seconds for between $50 and $70, is the estimated cost for film and processing. I can't believe there is an actual market for such a thing.

 

[traveler_101]

The article in the wsj journals mentions Filmschools, pros and consumer as target market as does pretty much every blog and forum I have read so far. But you are missing the commercial and the wedding market (quiet a few wedding filmers now also offer super8 movies),until the Logmar or very high cost refurbished Beaulieu super8 Filmmaking wasn't really an option for anything more serious this has changed. The Kodak camera will also have a bigger image than standard Super 8 it will use the Max8 Format. You can also be pretty sure that Kodak has done their market research and know about the size of the Super8 and E6 market and they seem to think that Super8 will be more successful. Super8 is also a market in which they will have close to a monopoly (Foma, Wittner respooled Fuji, Kodak, Agfa are small and won't really affect them) unlike the E6 market with a big company like Fuji which rules the E6 market.

And again it is not up to Kodak Eastman to reintroduce E6 Still film it is up to Kodak Alaris. EK is not responsible for still film they only concern themselves with movie film and graphic applications that's their business and if the movie business fails you can say goodbye to every Kodak Alaris film on the market.

All very good points. Before the agreement within the studios, Kodak was weeks away from shutting their film production down forever.

 

[joeswe]

And still film? As the mini-labs seem to be closing one by one and the availability of quality processing is becoming more and more the weak point of the whole photo film infrastructure, I am surprised that Kodak is not yet offering a similar service for still film in the US by providing centralized, quality mail-in processing and scanning/printing service ... People did mail their Kodachrome or E6 film or whatever to central labs to have it processed for decades (at least that was the norm in Germany) and I cannot see why something similar shouldn't be possible with print film? I someone has the expertise for high quality processing/scanning/printing and a branding that most people would trust instantly, it would be Kodak, no?

 

[BLKRCAT]

Time will tell I suppose.

But I can say as a consumer with ties to the broadcast industry here, every shoot I've been on and likely will be on in the future will be shot on RED and if I want to shoot something small and insignificant like a family vacation or something I've got my cellphone for free.

 

[bluesun267]

That's a typo--50ft of Super 8 runs 2:30 @ 24fps.

Of course it used to cost under $30 (sans the scan) up until they killed Ektachrome.

 

[jsrockit]

I'm completely interested in this... sounds fun.

 

[JP Owens]

Well, at least they will turn your $50 film into digital so you can actually view it.

 

[Lauffray]

There must be some really wealthy students at film schools. 90 seconds for between $50 and $70, is the estimated cost for film and processing. I can't believe there is an actual market for such a thing.

I don't see where it says a cartridge lasts 90sec, any real numbers on how long a cartridge of super 8 lasts at 24fps ?

 

[JP Owens]

Yeah, as pointed out above, the article had a typo. You get 2 minutes 30 seconds at 24fps.

 

[BillBingham2]

My dad could get an entire year of holiday videos on a single roll of Super 8 film! 🙂

And I used to run Records Management for CBS Inc on three 288MB disk drives (the size of washing machines) back in the early '80s .......

I'm not able to see the down side of digital video. Quality of Super 8 was ok with the cameras we had, even from my iPhone 5 the video quality is IMHO much better.

Would rather sink funds into other film based fun.

B2 (;->

 

[Prest_400]

Quite interesting and good initiative to get people into Motion Picture. What they should have done. The best sign out of this is their interest in Kodak itself, the legacy and giving a continuity to it.

Edit: BTW, have you noticed the retro cartridge design there in the "you buy it... we develop etc" part?

I'm not able to see the down side of digital video. Quality of Super 8 was ok with the cameras we had, even from my iPhone 5 the video quality is IMHO much better.

Would rather sink funds into other film based fun.

B2 (;->

Ironically the 1/3" sensors have just about the same size as a super 8 frame.
I recently got into polaroid from the Xmas giveaway here and got Medium Format as the good thing... That is quite enough for my budget 😀

 

[Ko.Fe.]

I think the news here is not only that the film will continue to be made, but that they made new cameras...😱

Very good note! I didn't think about it this way.

The way I was thinking about it, it reminds me the Minox thing. For cameras sold in Toronto the processing lab was in ... New York...