benlees
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Increased sensor and processing tech may render (pun intended) lenses obsolete. Cropping is just picking an angle of view after all, optical physics notwithstanding. Ironic that Leica is advocating this approach.
Increased sensor and processing tech may render (pun intended) lenses obsolete. Cropping is just picking an angle of view after all, optical physics notwithstanding. Ironic that Leica is advocating this approach.
Hi Peter,
Your images came out very nice. I know what you meant by not getting 100% what you expected from a new camera to you. I would also take photos in less challenging lights to see how the Q does there, and then I would move to the more difficult scenes to better understand the Q and figure out how to optimize settings so that you get what you ahve bene used to get, or maybe get something new.
But for bokeh freaks like me of course depth of field and rendering of OOF areas is still an issue to be contended with. Of course this could in principle be handled to an extent through software - after all I often use post processing of images to increase blur softness in areas behind and surrounding my main subject. Of course this requires a lot of processing, care, discrimination and dare I say some skill but this is not to say it could never be done in camera by clever software combined with suitable hardware capabilities.
Though it would require the camera to recognize what elements of the photo are the main subject (based on where focus falls) what parts are behind the area of main focus and what areas are in front. (It's the latter two things the camera would need additional facilities for). But if the camera can do this I suppose it could then apply an algorithm which selectively applies blur to those areas of the image or at least retain the info so necessary blur can be applied automatically by matching processing software when the image is downloaded to a computer. Complex, yes. Difficult, yes. Requires powerful new software and processors in the camera which introduce other problems like heat, weight and processing delay when saving the image which might compromise buffering etc. Yes. But impossible? Not so sure it would be at least one day.
Having said this, recent reading (after I purchased the camera) has caused me to discover at least one other shortcoming that, had I realized it, may have made me think further about buying or not buying. The Q has a reputation for banding of images in shadow areas and for this to become rapidly worse as images are pulled in post (or is it pushed - I can never remember).
Increased sensor and processing tech may render (pun intended) lenses obsolete. Cropping is just picking an angle of view after all, optical physics notwithstanding. Ironic that Leica is advocating this approach.
How so? Please explain.Shooting cropped and crop in post are different.
How so? Please explain.
Shooting cropped (i.e. the 35mm crop of 30MP of the Q2), you see and frame with the intended focal length. Your "mind's frame" changes accordingly. Then you make the decisions, which is the foundation of all art.
Crop in post, you're making a decision once more, which is convenient thanks to technology. But digital photography is still photography, and there is something irreplaceable and unrepeatable in the photographic process: you're no longer there - what had been excluded are gone forever.
I'm not sure why people are freaking out about the crop mode 'focal lengths'.
You can crop any image from any camera. Ever made. Don't need to spend $5K to do that.
Huss,
Not about freaking out. More about exploiting 47 Mp. That's the idea behind the Q2. It is about flexibility in a small fixed lens camera.
For many who don't print or print big the loss of IQ via cropping away mega pixels does less harm because of abundance. While not for everyone...
BTW I seldom crop, and if I do only a little. For me a Q2 would be great because 28mm FOV is a favored FOV and perhaps 90-95% of the time it would be used as such.
Cal
The associated JPG is the only way to get an "out of camera" cropped result. But in any case, saving the JPG or not, when shooting in a crop mode the DNG is tagged for the relevant crop. When the DNG is brought into Lightroom it is automatically displayed in the selected crop. Of course the full non-cropped image is also there in the DNG if you choose to adjust the cropping in LR.Just a query on how to use the crop mode.
I understand that both cameras (the Q and the Q2) keep the DNG file intact but crop the associated JPG file in camera. Here is my question.... Does this mean you already must have the camera set to save in both JPG and DNG formats BEFORE you try to set crop mode? Or does the camera automatically turn the duel save mode on when crop mode is activated in the menu or when the relevant button is pushed?...
The associated JPG is the only way to get an "out of camera" cropped result. But in any case, saving the JPG or not, when shooting in a crop mode the DNG is tagged for the relevant crop. When the DNG is brought into Lightroom it is automatically displayed in the selected crop. Of course the full non-cropped image is also there in the DNG if you choose to adjust the cropping in LR.
Yes, you can ignore saving both JPG and DNG if you don't want the JPG. Lightroom will display the DNG as cropped, not with the framelines. Using the framing/crop tool in LR will allow changing the crop. I have not used this feature myself, info as I understand it from the reviews... 🙂OK that's great to know. Am I to take it that this means that I can choose to shoot, say, at 35mm in DNG only and the DNG file in Lightroom will show the 35mm frameline boundaries overlayed on tht DNG image. That is, I can continue to ignore the option of saving in JPG and DNG simultaneously?
Yes, you can ignore saving both JPG and DNG if you don't want the JPG. Lightroom will display the DNG as cropped, not with the framelines. Using the framing/crop tool in LR will allow changing the crop. I have not used this feature myself, info as I understand it from the reviews... 🙂