parks5920
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The west coast is offically jealous... 😉
New York Meeting!! All Welcome
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This is only a couple weeks away. 🙂
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i'm starting to think about which camera bag to bring and what will go into it.
any suggestions?
joe
any suggestions?
joe
I am torn too. I think I want to take 1 camera, right now I may go with M3, 21, 50 and 90mm lenses.
Then I am torn to add a 35mmm lens.....
What about color and b&w, fast and slow film?
Then I am torn to add a 35mmm lens.....
What about color and b&w, fast and slow film?
kbg32
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Scarpia said:
Kurt,
There used to be a couple of interesting camera shops, one on Houston near Yonah Shimmels, and one on 9th Street just off of 2nd Avenue. Unfortunately with the rising rents, they are now gone. The latter shop was run by an old Russian man and his son. They always had pristine vintage equipment, as the father was a camera repairman. Tons of old Leicas, Russian gear, and movie cameras. I walked by one day, and like most mom and pop shops , they just disappeared.
Keith
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rover said:
i'm thinking the p and the iv sb with 35/50/85 or the 100/3.5 if it shows by the time i leave.
right now i'm thinking the 35/2.8 with the 50/1.9...something a bit different.
joe
Well, now I have to pick which 50????????????
Maybe two, an old Summicron and the Canon 50/1.5. Hopefully I will shoot a couple rolls and will then be able to compare.
Maybe two, an old Summicron and the Canon 50/1.5. Hopefully I will shoot a couple rolls and will then be able to compare.
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take the 1.5, just in case you do a portrait of me.
i need all the 'look' i can get!
joe
i need all the 'look' i can get!
joe
rbiemer
Unabashed Amateur
I just made an error: I looked at the photvillage web site and they have a similar deal on Bessa R and 35mm lens as Cameraquest has.... 🙄
I have easy options in what gear to bring w/me. The Zorkis are off to repairland so I can bring both working FSU cameras I own: FED5 and Kiev 4a. My collapsable Industar won't fit on the FED and the J-8 for the Kiev is pretty good so- FED and J-12+Kiev and J-8. Or just the FED and the 35 and 50. My J-9 has turned out to be a POS so it's staying home. I do have some nonRF options though...but no. I really do need to find a bag for my RF stuff. To do that I will just have to bring the FED.
Anybody know if Fedka has a real store or is he web-only?
While you guys are comparing real cameras, I'll be off in the corner with eyes closed, fingers in ears and humming. I'm not trying to be rude but just avoiding temptation. 😀
joe, any idea how many of us there's going to be?
Rob
I have easy options in what gear to bring w/me. The Zorkis are off to repairland so I can bring both working FSU cameras I own: FED5 and Kiev 4a. My collapsable Industar won't fit on the FED and the J-8 for the Kiev is pretty good so- FED and J-12+Kiev and J-8. Or just the FED and the 35 and 50. My J-9 has turned out to be a POS so it's staying home. I do have some nonRF options though...but no. I really do need to find a bag for my RF stuff. To do that I will just have to bring the FED.
Anybody know if Fedka has a real store or is he web-only?
While you guys are comparing real cameras, I'll be off in the corner with eyes closed, fingers in ears and humming. I'm not trying to be rude but just avoiding temptation. 😀
joe, any idea how many of us there's going to be?
Rob
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not sure off hand how many are coming.
i think it's posted somewhere on this thread and my list is at home.
never be embarrased by what you shoot. i've seen lots of crap taken by the 'best' cameras in the world and lots of great shots taken by 'crap' cameras.
i love my canons but in the real world they don't cost as much as others and there will always be some who will judge by that standard.
we're lucky, none of those people will be there with us!!
joe
i think fedka operates out of his apartment, but i'm not sure why i think that or where i got that info from.
i think it's posted somewhere on this thread and my list is at home.
never be embarrased by what you shoot. i've seen lots of crap taken by the 'best' cameras in the world and lots of great shots taken by 'crap' cameras.
i love my canons but in the real world they don't cost as much as others and there will always be some who will judge by that standard.
we're lucky, none of those people will be there with us!!
joe
i think fedka operates out of his apartment, but i'm not sure why i think that or where i got that info from.
rbiemer
Unabashed Amateur
I'm not embarrassed by the gear I've got. I just don't need another excuse for more "new" stuff. I would be happier if I hadn't torqued the Zorki, though.
I just got back some film from the FED and the J-12. Nothing I'm gonna share with anyone but the gear is doing what it's supposed to do. Now all I need to do is eliminate the operator error and I'm set! 😀
I've got a friend who makes a ridiculous amount of money and he's always got to have the latest gadgets. Whenever I see him he usually ends up telling me about the latest whatever. He's gone digital(Rebel, I think) and yet he could get just about the same results with a disposable camera.
My osession is a bit different. I admit to enjoying the "cool" factor but I much more enjoy the battery free, sunny sixteen road.
I will be looking for a lens in the 85-90mm range, though.
Rob
I just got back some film from the FED and the J-12. Nothing I'm gonna share with anyone but the gear is doing what it's supposed to do. Now all I need to do is eliminate the operator error and I'm set! 😀
I've got a friend who makes a ridiculous amount of money and he's always got to have the latest gadgets. Whenever I see him he usually ends up telling me about the latest whatever. He's gone digital(Rebel, I think) and yet he could get just about the same results with a disposable camera.
My osession is a bit different. I admit to enjoying the "cool" factor but I much more enjoy the battery free, sunny sixteen road.
I will be looking for a lens in the 85-90mm range, though.
Rob
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sorry if i misinterpreted...
rbiemer
Unabashed Amateur
No big deal.
I do like the FSU gear and, if I'm honest w/myself, the later Canon RF gear is amazing.
I enjoy the results and the gear. The FSU slope is plenty steep and slippery for me; I could see me taking the same ride with the P's, VI-L's, and 7's qiute easily. All this is a hobby for me and at least the FSU equipment won't hurt my wallet too much.
When I start seriously wondering "Gee, is a wrinkled curtain a deal breaker?" or something like that I know it's time to step away from the computer and go outside and shoot.
The other thing I like about the FSU stuff: packages from far away. Silly, I know, but I've always liked sending away for things. As a young kid I spent summers with my grandparents who would save me cereal box tops so I could send off for whatever toy was on offer. I would then spend the summer bugging the heck out of the postman "Have you got my___, yet?" 😀
Man, what an annoying kid I am/was!
Rob
I do like the FSU gear and, if I'm honest w/myself, the later Canon RF gear is amazing.
I enjoy the results and the gear. The FSU slope is plenty steep and slippery for me; I could see me taking the same ride with the P's, VI-L's, and 7's qiute easily. All this is a hobby for me and at least the FSU equipment won't hurt my wallet too much.
When I start seriously wondering "Gee, is a wrinkled curtain a deal breaker?" or something like that I know it's time to step away from the computer and go outside and shoot.
The other thing I like about the FSU stuff: packages from far away. Silly, I know, but I've always liked sending away for things. As a young kid I spent summers with my grandparents who would save me cereal box tops so I could send off for whatever toy was on offer. I would then spend the summer bugging the heck out of the postman "Have you got my___, yet?" 😀
Man, what an annoying kid I am/was!
Rob
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Scarpia
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Today I visited my urologist. As his office is not to far from the Second Avenue Deli. I had
planned to eat lunch there afterward. Then I received an omen. The buzzer sounded and a person was admitted who turned out not to be a patient but a delivery guy with a shopping bag from the Second Avenue Deli for my doctor. In the eight years I have been seeing him this is the first time this has happened. This nailed it down. In spite of the heat and humidity as soon as my examination (and humiliation) was completed I headed off to have lunch. I have never eaten there before. Here is my evaluation:
I ordered a pastrami on rye ($12.25) and a Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray ($1.95) The waiter an old timer brought a carafe of ice water with half a lemon in it and a small but very adequate plate of cole slaw in a vinagrette rather than a mayonnaise or salad dressing and very soon afterward a very hefty pastrami sandwich. Most places today serve these sandwiches on small slices of bread so while they are piled high there is actually less than there would be were the bread slices of normal size. Not here! A massive sandwich on normal size bread slices. The meat was soft and moist, but, IMHO lacking in the rich flavor that pastrami should have. I think that the meat was pre sliced and kept on a steam tray as it was brought very quickly and this would account for the washed out flavor. Otherwise the service was excellent and polite and the restaurant was packed with customers and very clean. When I worked in downtown Brooklyn up to 1997 I would occassionally have lunch in Junior's a downtown Brooklyn landmark and the pastrami was better although not as tender. Junior's also serves it on a special club roll (at an extra charge) which is to die for.
The Second Avenue Deli also has stuffed derma also known as kishka ($8.95). This is a delicious dish which is not at all like Polish kieszka and which is also known as heart attack on a plate. Fortunately, the deli is only six short blocks from Beth Israel Hospital a major New York teaching hospital and also one of the teaching hospitals of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine which can perform an angioplasty on very short notice and probably does for those who combine the kishka with one of the deli's sandwiches. At the next table a patron was having a corned beef sandwich which was also huge. Not far from the deli is the Strand Bookstore which is currently undergoing an expansion and which has all matter of photography books which you will not find in Iowa.
Unfortunately, I am leaving for my upstate summer home tomorrow so I cannot increase my cholesterol count by checking out the small number of other places which have genuine pastrami.
Hope to see you on 6/28.
Kurt M.
planned to eat lunch there afterward. Then I received an omen. The buzzer sounded and a person was admitted who turned out not to be a patient but a delivery guy with a shopping bag from the Second Avenue Deli for my doctor. In the eight years I have been seeing him this is the first time this has happened. This nailed it down. In spite of the heat and humidity as soon as my examination (and humiliation) was completed I headed off to have lunch. I have never eaten there before. Here is my evaluation:
I ordered a pastrami on rye ($12.25) and a Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray ($1.95) The waiter an old timer brought a carafe of ice water with half a lemon in it and a small but very adequate plate of cole slaw in a vinagrette rather than a mayonnaise or salad dressing and very soon afterward a very hefty pastrami sandwich. Most places today serve these sandwiches on small slices of bread so while they are piled high there is actually less than there would be were the bread slices of normal size. Not here! A massive sandwich on normal size bread slices. The meat was soft and moist, but, IMHO lacking in the rich flavor that pastrami should have. I think that the meat was pre sliced and kept on a steam tray as it was brought very quickly and this would account for the washed out flavor. Otherwise the service was excellent and polite and the restaurant was packed with customers and very clean. When I worked in downtown Brooklyn up to 1997 I would occassionally have lunch in Junior's a downtown Brooklyn landmark and the pastrami was better although not as tender. Junior's also serves it on a special club roll (at an extra charge) which is to die for.
The Second Avenue Deli also has stuffed derma also known as kishka ($8.95). This is a delicious dish which is not at all like Polish kieszka and which is also known as heart attack on a plate. Fortunately, the deli is only six short blocks from Beth Israel Hospital a major New York teaching hospital and also one of the teaching hospitals of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine which can perform an angioplasty on very short notice and probably does for those who combine the kishka with one of the deli's sandwiches. At the next table a patron was having a corned beef sandwich which was also huge. Not far from the deli is the Strand Bookstore which is currently undergoing an expansion and which has all matter of photography books which you will not find in Iowa.
Unfortunately, I am leaving for my upstate summer home tomorrow so I cannot increase my cholesterol count by checking out the small number of other places which have genuine pastrami.
Hope to see you on 6/28.
Kurt M.
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$12.25 for a sandwhich?
it has been a while i guess...
joe
it has been a while i guess...
joe
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Scarpia
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Well, most sandwiches are not that expensive, but if you want kosher deli or even kosher style deli you pay through the nose. There was at least a quarter pound of meat, however.
One of the factors accounting for the demise of these delis was the high prices. I noticed that two knockwursts with beans and trimmings was $15.95. In Queensbury, NY near my summer home where I shop I can buy Hilshire Farm knockwurst (not kosher, has pork as well as beef) for $2.49 a pound. Here in NYC the same package goes for $3.99.
Kurt M.
One of the factors accounting for the demise of these delis was the high prices. I noticed that two knockwursts with beans and trimmings was $15.95. In Queensbury, NY near my summer home where I shop I can buy Hilshire Farm knockwurst (not kosher, has pork as well as beef) for $2.49 a pound. Here in NYC the same package goes for $3.99.
Kurt M.
akalai
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Thanks Kurt...I am salivating again!!! 😀
Would you beleive its lunchtime again here in Sydney and I still haven't had lunch...again! I am stinging to try a genuine Deli pastrami sandwich and a "Cel-Ray". If I ever make it over to New York sometime in tehnear future do you think you could be my culinary tour guide...please?
As an aside I was watching late night reruns of "100 Center Street" and in it was some mention of a Deli...I missed the name as I was doing some school work but was wondering if the one referred to was a genuine deli....cool show by the way.
AKALAI
Would you beleive its lunchtime again here in Sydney and I still haven't had lunch...again! I am stinging to try a genuine Deli pastrami sandwich and a "Cel-Ray". If I ever make it over to New York sometime in tehnear future do you think you could be my culinary tour guide...please?
As an aside I was watching late night reruns of "100 Center Street" and in it was some mention of a Deli...I missed the name as I was doing some school work but was wondering if the one referred to was a genuine deli....cool show by the way.
AKALAI
akalai
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....mmmm I seem to remember a Nero Wolfe episode as well where he eats at some famous Deli, one of teh only time I think he eats out....haha, I think if I ever make it over I'm going to have to do plenty of research and take myself on a tour of New Yorks finest, and remaining, Delis, Diners and Luncheonettes....well its a good excuse for a mini photo-project anyway and I am sticking with it.
AKALAI
AKALAI
My chest hurts just thinking of this.
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Scarpia
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Better hurry, lunchionettes are turning into coffee shops (Newyorkese for a fancy lunchionette with "upscale" food), kosher and kosher style delis are fewer and fewer and diners, well you wouldn't believe it you will have to see foryourself.akalai said:
Backalley will have culture shock when he returns after 30 years. I never watched Centre Street (it is spelled the British way as it dates back to colonial times), but I am not familiar with a deli in that area which is now pretty much an extension of Chinatown; doesn't mean there isn't one though. At the second Avenue Deli which is a kosher deli, one of the headwaiters (maitre d'?) was Chinese. New york never ceases to surprise.
Kurt M.
