xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
Yes, it does look like a buttonfest on that Z7 FF Mirror-less camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAKJr5xqMME&t=384s
gavinlg
Veteran
Dogmatic thinking shouldn't apply to a new product line - especially since the n8008 wasn't exactly an ergonomic wonder to begin with. The z6/7 only have the front command dial and an unmarked top command dial - no rear command dial like the Sony's and fujis. If they had included a rear command dial you would have a direct interface for most of the main exposure adjustments. How much do you want to bet they add another control dial for their coming pro models later down the track?
shawn
Veteran
Larry Cloetta
Veteran
I am trying to watch the announcement streaming on the Nikon site right now, but it won’t load. There is a Nikon yellow banner at the bottom of the page saying it won’t be viewable “on certain devices or browsers”. Mine is an iPad with Safari, didn’t think that would be too unusual. Not sure if problem is the device, or their server is overloaded. Looks interesting, but I guess I won’t be watching it.
Taipei-metro
Veteran
shawn
Veteran
Lots of information in the presentation.
Upcoming lens roadmap attached. FTZ adapter claimed to be compatible with about 360 lenses. From briefly showing the adapter it doesn't look like it will AF with screw drive lenses.
Z7 end of September. 440,000 yen (including tax) ($4000ish)
Z6 end of November. 270,000 yen. (including tax) ($2400ish)
24-70 f4s end of Sept. 136,500 yen. (excluding tax) ($1230ish)
35 1.8 end of Sept. 114,000 (excluding tax) ($1028ish)
50mm 1.8 s end of October 83,500 yen. (excluding tax) ($753ish)
FTZ adapter end of Sept. 36,500 yen. (excluding tax) ($329ish)
(Based on Japanese market)
Shawn
Upcoming lens roadmap attached. FTZ adapter claimed to be compatible with about 360 lenses. From briefly showing the adapter it doesn't look like it will AF with screw drive lenses.
Z7 end of September. 440,000 yen (including tax) ($4000ish)
Z6 end of November. 270,000 yen. (including tax) ($2400ish)
24-70 f4s end of Sept. 136,500 yen. (excluding tax) ($1230ish)
35 1.8 end of Sept. 114,000 (excluding tax) ($1028ish)
50mm 1.8 s end of October 83,500 yen. (excluding tax) ($753ish)
FTZ adapter end of Sept. 36,500 yen. (excluding tax) ($329ish)
(Based on Japanese market)
Shawn
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farlymac
PF McFarland
Just finished watching the presentation. From what I saw of the examples, it should work out okay. Now lets see if Nikon can deliver the product without a slew of bugs.
PF
PF
jarski
Veteran
Nice new cameras, my initial impression is positive. This will be first mirrorless system that doesn’t have smaller apsc sibling. Will be also interesting how dslr market will behave from now on. Dpr is suspiciously slow to respond, lot of curious eyes peering the specs 
Archlich
Well-known
B&H has preorder open now:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/items/ci/40142/cat.html
Not unreasonable I say.
gavinlg
Veteran
The 58mm noct looks very cool. Until you see it mounted on the camera and realise it's so big it needs a tripod collar.
I'm sure it will be optically superb though.
I'm sure it will be optically superb though.
Larry Cloetta
Veteran
So, who here has preordered?
shawn
Veteran
I agree, Nikon is being smart and offering the FTZ bundled with the camera for only $150 more.
Shawn
cz23
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It seems the Z7 has no AA filter but the Z6 does, just like the Sony A7 series products. It's amazing to me how much this release mirrors Sony's product line. I was hoping for something different. And the size of those prime lenses!
The announcement really makes me appreciate Fuji and its recent small lens designs. I know the sensor size makes a difference, but still...
I understand that I'm likely not a target customer.
John
The announcement really makes me appreciate Fuji and its recent small lens designs. I know the sensor size makes a difference, but still...
I understand that I'm likely not a target customer.
John
Disappointed_Horse
Well-known
I have read the reports on the new Z6 and Z7 and am disappointed. After learning that two of the initial lens offerings were going to be 35mm f/1.8 and 50mm f/1.8 primes, I was hoping that Nikon would offer a reasonably compact system. Instead, the new Z-mount primes appear to be even larger than the already bulky AF-S lenses. I'm really not interested in yet another Nikon crew-served camera.
shawn
Veteran
They do seem very large.
Larger image circle needed for IBIS? Or if Nikon really is thinking about a larger sensor down the line perhaps these lenses are already built for that? (Would be brilliant if that is the strategy)
Or maybe they are just big.
Shawn
Archiver
Veteran
Jeepers, that Noct Nikkor looks like an nuclear plant. I'm all for good lenses, but that thing is nuts for a 58mm prime.
mich rassena
Well-known
They do seem very large.
Larger image circle needed for IBIS? Or if Nikon really is thinking about a larger sensor down the line perhaps these lenses are already built for that? (Would be brilliant if that is the strategy)
Or maybe they are just big.
Shawn
I hope you're right. Faster than f2 mediumish format would be a game changer. Otherwise, the lenses are just awkward for no good reason.
gavinlg
Veteran
I did the exact same comparison but with the xt2 body. Also interesting is the Fuji 23mm f1.4 against the nikkor-s 35mm f1.8. Looks around 2/3rds the size using that websites comparison.
froyd
Veteran
First camera to get me excited since Fuji announced the x line. I don't usually care for EVFs, but I'd be interested in taking this one for a spin and see if I can finally get a digital body for my F lenses after being underwhelmed by the Df.
Archlich
Well-known
These prime lenses again have very complex designs. The 50/1.8 has "12 elements in 9 groups including 2 aspherical elements and 2 ED glass elements". FF lenses intended to fill the demand of the resolution and correction hungry 40+ MP sensors would never be small. Otherwise...
You can always pay $7,995 for the APO-Summicron 50/2.
Still, we do need something smaller and simpler! Not every camera in the system would have the 45.7 MP sensor. Seriously would like to see more simple and high performance design like the CV Ultron 40/2.
You can always pay $7,995 for the APO-Summicron 50/2.
Still, we do need something smaller and simpler! Not every camera in the system would have the 45.7 MP sensor. Seriously would like to see more simple and high performance design like the CV Ultron 40/2.