eliev
Member
It's time to get new eyeglasses and my local optician carries Nikon lenses. Are they worth the extra cost? I live in France, where the cost of glasses is one of the highest in Europe, mostly because of the health insurance situation.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
How does that follow? I agree they're very expensive, and I've long wondered why, but what aspect of 'the health insurance situation' causes the high price? Not being funny: just asking because, as I say, I've long wondered.It's time to get new eyeglasses and my local optician carries Nikon lenses. Are they worth the extra cost? I live in France, where the cost of glasses is one of the highest in Europe, mostly because of the health insurance situation.
As for the Nikon lenses, it's hard to see why they should cost more either.
Cheers,
R.
eliev
Member
How does that follow? I agree they're very expensive, and I've long wondered why, but what aspect of 'the health insurance situation' causes the high price? Not being funny: just asking because, as I say, I've long wondered.
As for the Nikon lenses, it's hard to see why they should cost more either.
Cheers,
R.
Typically, public and private health insurance will cover the cost of glasses, so opticians take advantage of this and charge a fortune for frames and lenses. Often an optician will ask a client how much their private health care will reimburse, and adjust the price accordingly. I have student health care so I have to pay practically full price.
For example, a pair of Wayfarer sunglasses costs about 120 euros. When sold as prescription eyeglass frames, they can cost up to 200 euros. Many customers do not care how much they pay because they will be reimbursed anyway. Opticians charge as much as possible to make a higher profit. Everyone just takes advantage of the system. Of course, not all opticians are dishonest.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Typically, public and private health insurance will cover the cost of glasses, so opticians take advantage of this and charge a fortune for frames and lenses.
Sure? In Germany, glasses are not covered by the health insurance (any more). Nonetheless the prices hereabouts are so high that people close to the French border go to buy there glasses there. Arguably eyeglass prices are lower in every bordering country (except perhaps for Switzerland and Lichtenstein) and France is among the higher priced German neighbours, but the pattern does not seem related to the presence and effect of public health insurance. I suspect the local systems of trade privileges to be a far more relevant factor - laws and regulations in both France and Germany grant traditional middle-class trades (like opticians or pharmacists) an unusual (by EU standards - the Swiss share the French/German customs and are correspondingly expensive) degree of protection against being undercut by competition.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Thanks eliev and sevo. You have both prompted me to research more.
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
eliev
Member
Sure? In Germany, glasses are not covered by the health insurance (any more). Nonetheless the prices hereabouts are so high that people close to the French border go to buy there glasses there. Arguably eyeglass prices are lower in every bordering country (except perhaps for Switzerland and Lichtenstein) and France is among the higher priced German neighbours, but the pattern does not seem related to the presence and effect of public health insurance. I suspect the local systems of trade privileges to be a far more relevant factor - laws and regulations in both France and Germany grant traditional middle-class trades (like opticians or pharmacists) an unusual (by EU standards - the Swiss share the French/German customs and are correspondingly expensive) degree of protection against being undercut by competition.
It's true that there are now a number of inexpensive eyeglass chains here in France because people have become aware of the enormous profit margins opticians make.
To clarify, I am speaking of private health insurance, not public. Public health insurances pays about 2 euros per lens in my case.
eliev
Member
There is an interesting graph on this site: http://lci.tf1.fr/economie/consomma...s-epingles-par-l-ufc-que-choisir-7934575.html
France is apparently the #1 most expensive country for glasses in Europe. Germany is second.
France is apparently the #1 most expensive country for glasses in Europe. Germany is second.
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