Nikon RF - am I missing something?

Yep. I do not know of any of collectors sillier than Nikon RF collectors. Even Leicanuts seem pure and inocent comparativly. Just ask Brian about it...

And yes, that type of stupidity is why I smash all boxes when I buy something new. More than a bit extream, I realize, but I hate the idea of some fool making ludacris amounts of money on a box.

William
 
You know, I can see the cameras getting silly. Even if they're just collectors, cameras aren't too terribly big, they're nice to look at, heck even a big large format view camera is still smaller than a sofa or a pie safe and some people collect furniture. But a BOX? I mean it's not just like some lone nut put a $500 opening bid on it - there's _14_ stinking bids on it, it's that high, and it's STILL not met reserve. So we have at LEAST 8 separate crazy people involved with this. But what do you DO with the box? It's not like it's going in the smithsonian or something. Just how DOES one show off a $500+ empty box? Surely its no good if you can't brag about it (though you must be careful to whom you brag, because if you have any normal friends left, they'll laugh you to shame if you try to impress them with it.)
 
It can be money laundering. You put something on the ebuoy and then ask a frien to bid like a fool and then you have a legal income.
 
Money laundring $500? Seems peanuts to me.

IMO there's just fools at hand here, easily parted from their money.
 
Collector cameras often bring a lot more if sold with an original box. An SP with f/1.1 Nikkor would be worth huge bucks anyway... and even huger bucks with the correct box. So this might actually be a good investment for someone who already owns an SP/1.1 and wants to maximize his return when sellling it. Also, think how few of these boxes were made, and how few must have survived! It may be years before there's another one for sale.

Also... speaking as someone who designs boxes for a living (seriously!) I have to say the design of this box is extremely cool. The proportions, colors, and use of white space and typography exemplify some of the best trends in modern late-1950s design.

It would be interesting to put together an exhibit of the evolution of the boxes of premium 35mm cameras: going from the early ones, which seem to have been influenced by the design of jewelry boxes (appropriate for selling a small "precious" object) to the best ones from the '50s, like this Nikon box (designed to convey the image that you've just bought a bold, modern product) through the rather boring foam-brick era of the '70s (when it seems the idea was just to provide the necessary protection as inexpensively as possible) and on to today (I'd nominate the package-as-theater concept of the Epson R-D 1, designed with contrasting layers so that opening it for the first time is a dramatic experience.)

What's really interesting about camera packaging (to me; okay, so I'm a package nerd) is that normally when buying an expensive camera, you don't even SEE the package until you've already bought it. So, unlike for many retail products, spending a lot of money or effort on the package can't be justified in terms of on-shelf sales appeal. And yet, companies DO spend a lot of money and effort on them. I can only surmise that either this is motivated by sheer pride, or by the assumption that it helps give the new owner a stronger bond with the brand.

See? Being interested in camera boxes isn't so crazy. I'd collect them if I had the space... although I doubt if I'd ever collect many $1,500 ones!
 
Nice plan, JLW! I would love to see such an overview. Quite an aspect of camera gear that's usually overlooked.
 
Can you imagine trying to file a claim if it's damaged in shipping? Uh it was just an empty box. We'll replace only the value of a new empty box, because this one was special and had extradordinary intangible value.
 
XAos said:
Can you imagine trying to file a claim if it's damaged in shipping? Uh it was just an empty box. We'll replace only the value of a new empty box, because this one was special and had extradordinary intangible value.

I have a feeling that the successful bidder will just have one of his people fly over on the private jet, pick it up, and hand-carry it back.
 
jlw said:
What's really interesting about camera packaging (to me; okay, so I'm a package nerd) is that normally when buying an expensive camera, you don't even SEE the package until you've already bought it. So, unlike for many retail products, spending a lot of money or effort on the package can't be justified in terms of on-shelf sales appeal.

I am not so sure about this. When I was much younger and only dreaming of this stuff, I was always very much impressed by the golden (Nikon) and white (Leica) walls of boxes I saw in the shops. I would say the boxes of these two companies were always immediately recognisable. Therefore I also could not understand Leica's move to silver-coloured boxes.
 
That's a beauty! Anyone know by the serial number if it would have the titanium shutter?
 
The winner on that box was someone I have noticed having some nice and attractive items on sale every now and then. But if I paid 1500 bucks for a box, it had better be housing an elephant or something!
 
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