umcelinho
Marcelo
if the new 35/1.2 keeps the same signature but doesn't have the bullseye in the light source bokeh circles i'll be tempted to sell my v1 and get a v2. it's one thing i'm not a huge fan of (being really picky).
Krosya
Konicaze
Sure, but the price increase is still there. 50/1.5 was $350 not too long ago. The 35/1.2 around $700.
Value when compared to leica lenses of similar speed? yes
Still a value when compared to what the exact same cv lens used to cost? doubtful
Check out what Nokton 50/1.5 is being sold on ebay now - days of $350 are long gone lol.:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USA-Voigtla...628943044?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item4156c9d8c4
SimonSawSunlight
Simon Fabel
Check out what Nokton 50/1.5 is being sold on ebay now - days of $350 are long gone lol.:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USA-Voigtla...628943044?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item4156c9d8c4
wow... I bought mine for 360€ (~200€ less!) w/ adapter NEW in GERMANY.
Mister E
Well-known
if the new 35/1.2 keeps the same signature but doesn't have the bullseye in the light source bokeh circles i'll be tempted to sell my v1 and get a v2. it's one thing i'm not a huge fan of (being really picky).
Wow, nearly all aspherical lenses do this. I bet the 50/1.2 Noctilux does this. I know that the 35/1.2 did it as did my 28/1.4 AF-D and 58/1.2 Noct-NIKKOR.
raid
Dad Photographer
Leica's new lens prices are nuts, and CV's new lens prices are .... what?
More reasonable? Realistic? Affordable for some?
More reasonable? Realistic? Affordable for some?
david.elliott
Well-known
Leica's new lens prices are nuts, and CV's new lens prices are .... what?
More reasonable? Realistic? Affordable for some?
Chopped nuts.
Neare
Well-known
Check out what Nokton 50/1.5 is being sold on ebay now - days of $350 are long gone lol.:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USA-Voigtla...628943044?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item4156c9d8c4
I put out a WTB add for the nokton 1.5 a couple of weeks ago.
I got an offer for $450 and another for $350 here on RFF. Great seeing as they sell at around $500+ used on the bay. Reasonable prices are still obtainable
Leica All Day
Veteran
Well, just an uninformed opinion really. However, I thought the reason the first one was discontinued was due to unavailability of certain parts. Has anyone ever succeeded in changing a lens' design and keeping the draw exactly the same?
That's a good question....that's why I mentioned that special version of the 50mm asph summilux(E43) that was released with the mp3.....I wonder if anybody owns that lens AND a current 50mm asph summilux and has seen a difference (I doubt it).....
Anyways, this new lens is good news and I am thankful that Mr. K and his staff are hard at work these days.....
Cheers, Michael
MCTuomey
Veteran
The CV lens I do wish I had bought was the SL 125 APO macro... now they're sky high in price, and totally unavailable even if I was in a position to spend $2.5K for one. That I do hope they'll revisit in the SL2 line.
OT: The Zeiss 100 f2 Makro Planar would be an alternative. Still expensive by my standards, but less than the CV 125's legend-status price.
There really are so many good lenses available, enormously fertile ground for gear debates and wasted shooting time.
mjaphoto
Newbie
german site 'photoscala' reports, that the version II is "noticably more compact" (deutlich kompakter).
http://www.photoscala.de/Artikel/CP-2011-Zwei-lichtstarke-Festbrennweiten-von-Voigtlaender
diameter: 60.8 mm
length: 62.0 mm
filter thread: 52 mm
weight: 471 g
shortest focus distance: 0.5 m
for your reference, the version 1:
diameter: 63 mm
length: 77.8 mm
filter thread: 52 mm
weight: 490 g
shortest focus distance: 0.7 m
The length of 77.8mm for V1 is with the supplied lens shade (63mm without it), so the difference in length would be a whoppin' 1mm assuming the V2 length is for the lens barrel only ..
Mister E
Well-known
One aspect of the new lens I'm really hoping for is it's corner performance. It would be really nice to have the incident angle approaching perpendicular to film/sensor surface for improved sharpenss and with less light fall-off at the corners. I do recall seeing that when I owned the V1.
Can't believe trading it for the Summilux pre-Asph 50.:bang:
Falloff is the point of lenses like the Noctlix and the 35/1.2. You want a sharp bright center with dark corners that keep distracting subjects out of the frame.
ampguy
Veteran
Hi Michael
Hi Michael
I hope someone can definitively answer your question, I'd be interested in what they have to say.
However, I think that the E43 retro 50 lux asph is pretty much the same "optical design" as the 50 lux asph, but with a scalloped barrel and E43mm front filter mount. I'm not sure if anyone ever meant to change the optics.
Same with the pre-asph v2 and the so called v3 pre-asph, same optics, same rendering, but the mount or stopper whatever was changed so it could focus a bit closer, (some even had retro scalloped barrels too!), built-in hood, and E46 filter size, possibly because it's a more modern size. But, same optical design. I've had both.
Hi Michael
I hope someone can definitively answer your question, I'd be interested in what they have to say.
However, I think that the E43 retro 50 lux asph is pretty much the same "optical design" as the 50 lux asph, but with a scalloped barrel and E43mm front filter mount. I'm not sure if anyone ever meant to change the optics.
Same with the pre-asph v2 and the so called v3 pre-asph, same optics, same rendering, but the mount or stopper whatever was changed so it could focus a bit closer, (some even had retro scalloped barrels too!), built-in hood, and E46 filter size, possibly because it's a more modern size. But, same optical design. I've had both.
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That's a good question....that's why I mentioned that special version of the 50mm asph summilux(E43) that was released with the mp3.....I wonder if anybody owns that lens AND a current 50mm asph summilux and has seen a difference (I doubt it).....
Anyways, this new lens is good news and I am thankful that Mr. K and his staff are hard at work these days.....
Cheers, Michael
Mister E
Well-known
Cosina made a 43mm filtered 50/1.5 Sonnar in S-mount with the exact same optics as the 46mm filtered m-mount version.
Since the old measurements included the hood I think it's pretty clear this isn't changing in size much at all.
Since the old measurements included the hood I think it's pretty clear this isn't changing in size much at all.
kevin m
Veteran
Can't believe trading it for the Summilux pre-Asph 50. :bang:
Why the head bang? Performance-wise, I'd say it was a fair trade.
Check out what Nokton 50/1.5 is being sold on ebay now - days of $350 are long gone lol.:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USA-Voigtla...628943044?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item4156c9d8c4
Bought one the other day ...new old stock... $349.
raid
Dad Photographer
Bought one the other day ...new old stock... $349.![]()
This seems to be a super deal these days. Good for you.
fiatlux
Established
The length of 77.8mm for V1 is with the supplied lens shade (63mm without it), so the difference in length would be a whoppin' 1mm assuming the V2 length is for the lens barrel only ..
That's my understanding as well. Ovelaying both lens' images in Photoshop does not seem to support a difference of 16mm in length.
[EDIT: checked the CV lenses chart (see sticky post) and the V1 is indeed 63mm w/o hood and 79mm with]
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Any info on when these go on sale?
No info yet?
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Check out what Nokton 50/1.5 is being sold on ebay now - days of $350 are long gone lol.:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USA-Voigtla...628943044?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item4156c9d8c4
Anything "collectible" has a premium
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