Ade-oh
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My other suggestion is that someone who lives not too far from Vicky could lend her a working OM-2 for her trip so that she can get her's repaired at her leisure when she returns.
I have a very reliable OM-2 that is pretty much a backup body ... if I lived closer I would happily let her use it to get her out of this scrape but Oz is a long way from Milton Keynes.
Anybody?
Well, I'm in London and can lend an OM-4 or an OM-1 if that's of any use. Vicky, PM me if it works for you.
Lilserenity
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A very kind soul has offered to lend me their OM2SP which should be fun as I have never used an OM other than my 2n (I do have a second 2n body but I want one with negative film -- and the other with slide) so it should be interesting.
Because I have been looking at solutions this week I have been looking at the OM4Ti's and thinking hmmm, that's a nice camera....
But realistically, the only OM body I would ever buy beyond my 2ns (because they are just wonderful) is an OM3 purely for its full manual, spot metering good-ness and I'd rather save up for that than splurge money on things I don't really need.
There again I don't need 3 OM bodies do I. (Or indeed 95% of the things I have but where's the fun in that!)
Vicky
Because I have been looking at solutions this week I have been looking at the OM4Ti's and thinking hmmm, that's a nice camera....
But realistically, the only OM body I would ever buy beyond my 2ns (because they are just wonderful) is an OM3 purely for its full manual, spot metering good-ness and I'd rather save up for that than splurge money on things I don't really need.
There again I don't need 3 OM bodies do I. (Or indeed 95% of the things I have but where's the fun in that!)
Vicky
Ade-oh
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Oddly enough, the OM-3 is the only OM I haven't enjoyed using, mainly because setting exposures - with the spot meter at least - just became too fiddly. The auto-exposure on the OM-4 makes it so much easier to make use of the multi-spot metering. I owned an OM-3 for about 18 months and then flogged it on Ebay, actually getting a few pounds more than I'd originally paid for it.
John Hermanson
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If you're thinking of a 3, keep in mind that it's got the battery drain issues of the original OM-4. No updated circuits were ever made for it, the drain cannot be fixed or turned off. With the 3, spot metering does not have to be used, works fine with the averaging meter. Battery drain issues also apply to 2S, carry extra silver oxide batteries with you. OM-3Ti has much lower drain but will sell for considerably more. John
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Lilserenity
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Oddly enough, the OM-3 is the only OM I haven't enjoyed using, mainly because setting exposures - with the spot meter at least - just became too fiddly. The auto-exposure on the OM-4 makes it so much easier to make use of the multi-spot metering. I owned an OM-3 for about 18 months and then flogged it on Ebay, actually getting a few pounds more than I'd originally paid for it.
Interesting, I think that says I should try both if at all possible before settling on which I might get. In any instance it's a little way off yet! I would certainly look at the OM4Ti since that has some reasonable sounding enhancements (revised circuits, and some better weather sealing.) Hmmm choices choices!
Thanks for the very kind offer on the loan of an OM1, I would taken you up on it had someone else not got there before you.
If you're thinking of a 3, keep in mind that it's got the battery drain issues of the original OM-4. No updated circuits were ever made for it, the drain cannot be fixed or turned off. With the 3, spot metering does not have to be used, works fine with the averaging meter. Battery drain issues also apply to 2S, carry extra silver oxide batteries with you. OM-3Ti has much lower drain but will sell for considerably more. John
Thanks John, a mine of OM information as ever! I have seen the prices for the OM3Ti and they are well, I'd never pay out for that considering how good my modest OM2n's are, I'd sooner spend that kind of money on Zuiko glass.
Vicky
amateriat
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A very kind soul has offered to lend me their OM2SP which should be fun as I have never used an OM other than my 2n (I do have a second 2n body but I want one with negative film -- and the other with slide) so it should be interesting.
Interesting, as the only other OM body I care for, besides the OM-2n, is the OM-2S/SP, which (now former) Galfriend has and uses too seldom. That body hits the sweet spot of features and handling characteristics IMO. Let me know what you think of it if you get to borrow one.
- Barrett
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The best camera is one that still works!
It's amazing that in spite of the attributes of the OM-4 OM-3 etc the OM-2 is pretty near perfect at a fraction of the price.
Spot metering I can take or leave personally ... yes it's more precise but you still have to work out a balance for the over all scene. I've found the OM-2 be uncannily accurate when used in auto with some common sense compensation applied occasionally.
I'm glad Vicky can now breathe easy and just look forward to her trip.
This is a great forum!
Spot metering I can take or leave personally ... yes it's more precise but you still have to work out a balance for the over all scene. I've found the OM-2 be uncannily accurate when used in auto with some common sense compensation applied occasionally.
I'm glad Vicky can now breathe easy and just look forward to her trip.
This is a great forum!
John Hermanson
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2N is my favorite. It has all the improvements that ever went into the OM-2, I still have lots of parts for it (2 and 2N), is ultra-reliable, and never has battery drain. By the way, plain OM3/4 have same weather sealing, gaskets, o-rings as the 3Ti, 4T, 4Ti. John
Lilserenity
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Interesting, as the only other OM body I care for, besides the OM-2n, is the OM-2S/SP, which (now former) Galfriend has and uses too seldom. That body hits the sweet spot of features and handling characteristics IMO. Let me know what you think of it if you get to borrow one.
Will do, received it now and yes lots of similarities to the OM2n, some differences, the fixed hot shoe looks much more rugged but then I tend to not keep the hot shoe on mine (my shoe 4 as with many is falling to pieces.) Looks a good camera though!
It's amazing that in spite of the attributes of the OM-4 OM-3 etc the OM-2 is pretty near perfect at a fraction of the price.
Spot metering I can take or leave personally ... yes it's more precise but you still have to work out a balance for the over all scene. I've found the OM-2 be uncannily accurate when used in auto with some common sense compensation applied occasionally.
I'm glad Vicky can now breathe easy and just look forward to her trip.
This is a great forum!![]()
Yes, the more I think about it, the more I think actually why do you want another OM body, just for shadow and highlight buttons which in fairness I could get the same impact of by exposure compensation! It's the whole package that is so good on the OM2n, the only downside is no manual speed except B. I keep seeing references to the OM2 having one manual speed of 1/60th but my 2n's don't, I think this might be some confusion with the OM2SP which definitely does have a 1/60th manual speed. Anyway, apart from that, it's pretty much perfect with its smaller size, ergonomics (better for my smaller hands) -- the truth is, if I whisper it, I prefer using my OM2's to my M2.... hehe Heaven forbid there comes a time where I can't get colour film, I'm going to be desperately sad as I would love it if Olympus came out with a digital SLR just like an OM2 body...Oh well. Let's not worry about it and enjoy it
Agreed -- this forum is exceptional, I don't really frequent other forums that much (seldom in fact) one because of time but two, well, this forum is great!
2N is my favorite. It has all the improvements that ever went into the OM-2, I still have lots of parts for it (2 and 2N), is ultra-reliable, and never has battery drain. By the way, plain OM3/4 have same weather sealing, gaskets, o-rings as the 3Ti, 4T, 4Ti. John
Interesting stuff, the more I think about it, the more I think, actually forget another OM body, look out when the time comes for a fast wide/ultra wide, something like a 24mm f/2 or 21mm f/3.5 would be great, I'd appreciate that more anyway really. That said, at the moment, the 28mm, 50mm and 100mm lenses I have are all super!
Vicky
Lilserenity
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Latest news on this one, it's still in the workshop and a good job I have a loaner as there is no cast iron guarantee it will be up and running tomorrow.
They did say though that the blinds were running at all sorts of erratic speeds, their words not mine, by this afternoon they had it reliably firing at 1/60th. Hopefully by tomorrow it should be firing at the right speeds but as I say no guarantee.
Either way it sounds like something wasn't right, interestingly the week before this issue was brought to a head I took about 15-20 shots in Brighton, usual old stuff really but the odd few I'd like to have got the pictures from, shooting around 1/1000th at f/8 as it was a very bright evening, but the negatives developed underexposed, which is very bizarre so goodness knows what the OM2n in question was doing. Worrying as you do wonder even when "fixed" will it go wrong again. Hopefully it's not on its last legs as it's done the bulk of the Impression MK project (well from August 2009 to March this year) and to see it floundering is very sad.
Hopefully some good news in the end though!
Vicky
They did say though that the blinds were running at all sorts of erratic speeds, their words not mine, by this afternoon they had it reliably firing at 1/60th. Hopefully by tomorrow it should be firing at the right speeds but as I say no guarantee.
Either way it sounds like something wasn't right, interestingly the week before this issue was brought to a head I took about 15-20 shots in Brighton, usual old stuff really but the odd few I'd like to have got the pictures from, shooting around 1/1000th at f/8 as it was a very bright evening, but the negatives developed underexposed, which is very bizarre so goodness knows what the OM2n in question was doing. Worrying as you do wonder even when "fixed" will it go wrong again. Hopefully it's not on its last legs as it's done the bulk of the Impression MK project (well from August 2009 to March this year) and to see it floundering is very sad.
Hopefully some good news in the end though!
Vicky
John Hermanson
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If meter is reading 1/1000 f8 (BV16, asa 100 film at mid day bright sunlight, no clouds) and negatives are thin (underexposed), camera is simply not calibrated right, aside from the curtains not running true and consistently. Just curious what asa film you're using to be shooting that fast. Meter (needle) is calibrated independently from the actual exposure. If it all isn't setup in a specific order (and with the correct batteries), then it may be difficult to predict the longevity of the repair. JohnEither way it sounds like something wasn't right, interestingly the week before this issue was brought to a head I took about 15-20 shots in Brighton, usual old stuff really but the odd few I'd like to have got the pictures from, shooting around 1/1000th at f/8 as it was a very bright evening, but the negatives developed underexposed, which is very bizarre
Hopefully some good news in the end though!
Vicky
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Lilserenity
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If meter is reading 1/1000 f8 and negatives are thin, camera is simply not calibrated right, aside from the curtains not running true and consistently. Just curious what asa film you're using to be shooting that fast. Meter (needle) is calibrated independently from the actual exposure. If it all isn't setup in a specific order (and with the correct batteries), then it may be difficult to predict the longevity of the repair. John
Super quick reply on this one as I am online! It was indeed very fast, I can't recall which film it was but it was either FP4+ or HP5+, either way it was a very bright afternoon, and the shutter speeds were right up there (1/500th or 1/1000th certainly) according to the needle.
I will await further news tomorrow and see what the outcome is, I'm fairly confident that they'll get it right as they're very well regarded here.
Failing that, I guess I might have to make use of your services and hope unlike my Autocord the stupid customs people read the declaration form this time around...
Either way it sounds like it's not in a healthy way or hasn't been. Amazing I got any pictures at all from it although admittedly some of the most successful from it were used in low light in M mode fixed to 1/60th second...
Vicky
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