Ordered a Lytro "Shoot Now Focus Later" Camera

[Roger Hicks]

Or still appropriate in places like Oz where internet reliability is marginal in many areas! Some friends of mine nearby went back to their landline recently for this reason.

Hopefully this will change with the current plan to upgrade to fibre optic but you can't cover a country like Australia with this type of service so satelite (which is crap IMO) will fill the gaps.

Yes, the trouble is that an impressive number of self-proclaimed futurologists are wooly-minded computer addicts living in big cities. People who say, "No-one needs a private car" mean, "I don't need a private car because I live in a big city and am completely lacking in imagination." As for Skype, that IS a land line, unless you use satellite. There's just a difference in the reliability of what happens when the land line comes into your house. On top of all this, there are still surprisingly many people who are not on the internet -- and they ain't all 'old people'.

Cheers,

R.

 

[btgc]

And technologies are bought because they care for people (take care of people's needs/wants) not because they make profit for someone.

Sure, but like as with medicine, one has to think if prescribed medicine is necessary or sufficient. Despite technology people have to think. No device or technology will displace human mind. Film can be replaced by more current technology, mind can not.

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

For better or worse, wired telephones are an old-people thing.

For better of for worse, web startups are a middle-aged people thing.

iPad and Android apps, for better or for worse, are a young people thing.

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

Or still appropriate in places like Oz where internet reliability is marginal in many areas! Some friends of mine nearby went back to their landline recently for this reason.

Hopefully this will change with the current plan to upgrade to fibre optic but you can't cover a country like Australia with this type of service so satelite (which is crap IMO) will fill the gaps.

For better or for worse, absolute blanket statements are tunnel-vision things.

Things that work in one place, for better or for worse, don't work in other places.

Many people on the intertoobes forget that the intertoobes are not representative of the industrialized world's population as a whole. There are also many places in the U.S. where people still use modems to connect...not because "they're old" or "anti-technology" but because these things are simply not available.

People ought to stop dismissing things and tell other people they're "old" or "middle-aged" or "young" just because they choose one thing over another or simply, because in their experience, some things are better than others.

For example, Lytro: the damn thing hasn't been shipped yet and people are already complaining how hard to use it is. Or that it isn't just like their camera. Sheez, ppl!

 

[rxmd]

Many people on the intertoobes forget that the intertoobes are not representative of the industrialized world's population as a whole.

You can put that even broader and say that people forget that they are not representative.

 

[sevo]

And technologies are bought because they care for people (take care of people's needs/wants) not because they make profit for someone.

The vast majority of products sell not because they fulfil an actual need, but because marketing succeeded at superimposing some imaginary social value on an otherwise unassuming, commonplace of even entirely useless item.

 

[brbo]

The vast majority of products sell not because they fulfil an actual need, but because marketing succeeded at superimposing some imaginary social value on an otherwise unassuming, commonplace of even entirely useless item.

Sorry, but this is just another way of labeling a vast majority of people as idiots.

Do I absolutely need a camera? No. Does anyone? I doubt it. Do I enjoy it? F*** yeah! Would my life be much better if I never learned 'picture taking machine' actually existed?

 

[sevo]

Sorry, but this is just another way of labeling a vast majority of people as idiots.

Having worked in the advertising industry I absolutely agree they are...

Sevo

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

Having worked in the advertising industry I absolutely agree they are [idiots]...

That's not very good advertising for the advertising industry or their employees. But if that's their fundamental view of the world, who am I to argue?

 

[dshfoto]

Ordered a Lytro and bought a Graflex 4x5 in the same week -- hedging my bets.