out of all the cameras and all the lenses which would you...

well, a deal has been struck!
i am going to buy an original canon F1 with a canon 24/2.8 lens, both in good shape with the camera recently cla'd...and adjusted for a modern battery.
i remember my old canon f1...weighed a ton and built like the proverbial brick **** house!
i plan to use ilford's chromogenic film and use a local film processor for dev/scan.
 
back alley said:
...recommend to me?

my criteria is...
film camera
easily obtainable
and fitted with the best 24mm lens of the same brand as camera
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Great 24 lenses i've used are the Canon new FD 24/2.8. The Nikon AI 24/2.8 should be great as well. Also I own a Sigma "Super-wide II" 24/2.8 for Nikon which is very good as well. For 28mm the Canon new FD 28/2.8 is superb and very cheap. I also have the pre-AI Nikon 28/3.5 and it has character (nice rendering), despite corners not so good.

Easily obtainable, cheap film cameras for the respective systems are the Canon AE1 and the Nikon N2000 series.

Great cameras that are not too expensive or overpriced on the market are, for each system:

Canon
Canon F-1 original model
Canon FTb and FT and TX

Nikon
Nikkormat FT2 and FT3
Nikkormat EL and EL2
Nikon F (it is not expensive on the used market)
Nikon FE and perhaps FM

Pentax
Spotmatic
KX
MX

Minolta
SRT-series
XE5

Yashica
FR-1

Olympus
OM-1 and OM-2

I don't think the wideangles for the Olympus system are the best possible, though. The OM lenses were designed for compactness first and this should make wideangles suffer in some regard - distortion or corner performance or chromatic abberration --- something has got to give, compared to a lens with similar price point and similar state-of-the-art which was designed without too much concern for dimensions.
The opposite are the Nikon pre-AI lenses and Canon FL and FD (1st generation) lenses, they were made for optical performance first, compactness not a concern.
 
Well, looks like Joe has his combo.

I was about to say how much I loved my FE-2 Nikon, but with a 28. I never had the funds when a 24 made itself available.
I am not a big fan of the handling of the OM bodies, but I have 4 of them just because of the lenses. I have my priorities straight :) The OM 24/2.8 is a stunner.
If I could afford one, I'm positive an SEM 24/3.8 on dang near any M body would be my personal winner.

All of above seems a rehash of most previous posts. Go figure. We must all have excellent taste :D
 
i did finally choose...original F1 with canon 24/2.8 ssc...
should be in the mail very soon. started to look on ebay for an fd 100/2.8 canon lens...should be a good small kit.
and for those worrying about it, i have a domke bag that should hold it all nicely...;)
 
back alley said:
i did finally choose...original F1 with canon 24/2.8 ssc...
should be in the mail very soon. started to look on ebay for an fd 100/2.8 canon lens...should be a good small kit.
and for those worrying about it, i have a domke bag that should hold it all nicely...;)
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What bag would you carry this new kit in was going to be my next question. ;)

Congrats on the new film kit!
 
back alley said:
i did finally choose...original F1 with canon 24/2.8 ssc...
should be in the mail very soon. started to look on ebay for an fd 100/2.8 canon lens...should be a good small kit.
and for those worrying about it, i have a domke bag that should hold it all nicely...;)
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Joe,

Best of luck with your new kit.

BTW my 24 is a Olympus 24/3.5 PC that has been converted to Nikkon F-mount. I use it on a F3HP.

Cal
 
back alley said:
i did finally choose...original F1 with canon 24/2.8 ssc...
should be in the mail very soon. started to look on ebay for an fd 100/2.8 canon lens...should be a good small kit.
and for those worrying about it, i have a domke bag that should hold it all nicely...;)
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Excellent choice, i love the F-1, bothj old and new.

I own the (new) FD 100/2.8 and its compact, light, and sharp, although the bokeh is "plain vanilla", that is, smooth and nice but without character or "wow".

My tip is -- if you want nice bokeh, look out for a FD 85/1.8 or FL 85/1.8. Or, longish lenses, go for the FL 135/2.5, FL 135/3.5, or FD 135/2.5 SC. The latest FD new 135/3.5 is compact and sharp but I don't like the bokeh. The FD new 135/2.8 is sharp but bokeh is again "plain vanilla".

If you want a 35mm the FD 35/3.5 (or the FL 35/3.5), FD 35/2.0 (any version) and FD new 35/2.8 are stunners.

As for normal lenses, the underrated 50/1.8 (any version) is good and cheap and all-purpose; the best performance is in the FDn 50/1.4; best bokeh in the 55/1.2 or 58/1.2.
 
For Minolta - SR1s or even SR7v - no battery worries and smaller/lighter - a black one would be awesome , but expensive + 24 f2.8 of course .
 
back alley said:
well, a deal has been struck!
i am going to buy an original canon F1 with a canon 24/2.8 lens, both in good shape with the camera recently cla'd...and adjusted for a modern battery.
i remember my old canon f1...weighed a ton and built like the proverbial brick **** house!
i plan to use ilford's chromogenic film and use a local film processor for dev/scan.
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Good move. the Nikkor 24/2.8 is extremely susceptible to flare and ghosting. I hated that lens.
 
Shaking my head over all those SLR recommendations on the Rangefinderforum :D

I love the Voigtländer Snapshot Skopar .. maybe not enough emphasis on LOOOOOVE - but the Bessa series of cameras is not for me (no offence) so I'd advice for a Leica with the Summilux (not that I could buy it) for the special touch of f/1.4 :p
 
keep in mind that price was a large part of the calculus in deciding what to get...and also availability...there was a kit in our own rff classifieds...
ideally, something located in canada would be the best as it cuts down on the cost...what i bought cost me an additional $100. cdn in exchange rates.
 
Nikon F2. Whichever model you choose with whichever Nikkor 24mm that fits that you like. Should be some choices available from KEH.

I've owned several. Best, more reliable professional cameras I've ever owned although I sorta fell out with Nikon years ago. Still have the first F2 I ever bought new (1974) although I haven't shot film in years. I take it out every now and then and go through the shutter speeds and it's still functioning well. Lots of memories associated with that camera.


"...the Nikkor 24/2.8 is extremely susceptible to flare and ghosting. I hated that lens."

Wow! It was my favorite Nikkor lens when I used Nikons. I completely wore out the first one I owned but it took many years and more heavy use and abuse than thought possible. I still have the second one although it looks like hell. Of course, we're talking about lenses built in the 1970s and 1980s. Compared to today's designs, limitations would be expected.
 
Yep...I missed most of page 2 of the thread. Sorry.

Canon's a good choice. I started using Canons (and Leicas) when I got PO'd at Nikon.
 
My first choice would be a Black Bessa L with a Snap-Shot CV 25/4.

If SLR lust is more you mood, Nikkormat FT3 (just as sturdy as the FTn but easier to find batteries) and any AIed Nikkor 24/2.8.

Enjoy your Canon lots of folks love them and I bet you will too.

B2 (;->
 
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